1 00:00:03,071 --> 00:00:04,638 THE UNKNOWN SUBJECT WE'RE LOOKING FOR 2 00:00:04,672 --> 00:00:06,807 IS A MALE, MOST LIKELY IN HIS 20s, 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,177 BASED ON THE TWO VICTIMS SO FAR. 4 00:00:09,210 --> 00:00:10,478 BUT BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, 5 00:00:10,511 --> 00:00:12,080 WE NEED TO BE CLEAR. 6 00:00:12,113 --> 00:00:14,482 AGE IS THE MOST DIFFICULT VARIABLE TO PREDICT. 7 00:00:14,515 --> 00:00:16,117 HE COULD BE IN HIS 40s. 8 00:00:16,150 --> 00:00:17,818 A VERY FIT 40s. 9 00:00:17,851 --> 00:00:19,653 SO OUR POINT IS, 10 00:00:19,687 --> 00:00:21,622 THE PROFILE IS A GUIDE ONLY. 11 00:00:21,655 --> 00:00:23,691 IT'S AN INVESTIGATIVE TOOL, 12 00:00:23,724 --> 00:00:25,459 AND WE NEED TO STRESS THAT. 13 00:00:25,493 --> 00:00:28,196 ALL WE HAVE IS A SERIES OF DEDUCTIONS, 14 00:00:28,229 --> 00:00:29,497 BUT ONE OF THOSE DEDUCTIONS 15 00:00:29,530 --> 00:00:32,166 IS THAT THE UNSUB KNEW HIS VICTIMS PERSONALLY. 16 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,102 WHICH IS WHY WE'RE DELIVERING THE PROFILE TO YOU, 17 00:00:34,135 --> 00:00:36,604 BECAUSE YOU ALSO KNEW THE VICTIMS. 18 00:00:36,637 --> 00:00:40,241 SO, OUR GOAL IS NOT TO MAKE YOU UNCOMFORTABLE 19 00:00:40,274 --> 00:00:41,742 OR SUSPICIOUS. NORMALLY WE WOULDN'T 20 00:00:41,775 --> 00:00:44,278 EVEN GIVE THE PROFILE THIS EARLY, 21 00:00:44,312 --> 00:00:46,280 BUT YOU ARE OUR BEST CHANCE 22 00:00:46,314 --> 00:00:48,249 AT DISCOVERING THE IDENTITY OF-- 23 00:00:48,282 --> 00:00:49,450 YES? 24 00:00:49,483 --> 00:00:51,352 I HAVE A QUESTION FOR AGENT ROSSI. 25 00:00:51,385 --> 00:00:52,586 GO AHEAD. 26 00:00:52,620 --> 00:00:54,322 WHY DID YOUR LAST BOOK... 27 00:00:54,355 --> 00:00:55,656 SUCK SO BAD? 28 00:00:55,689 --> 00:00:57,325 [LAUGHTER] 29 00:00:57,358 --> 00:01:00,661 UH...WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT NOW. 30 00:01:00,694 --> 00:01:02,530 REALLY? THAT'S ALL I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. 31 00:01:02,563 --> 00:01:05,299 I MEAN, YOU EVEN CONSIDER THAT TOMMY YATES WAS A PATSY? 32 00:01:05,333 --> 00:01:07,601 LOOK, WE GET IT, OK? 33 00:01:07,635 --> 00:01:09,370 YOU HAVE NO REASON TO TRUST US. 34 00:01:09,403 --> 00:01:12,240 WE'RE THE FBI, AND YOU ARE THE OFFICIAL COMMUNITY 35 00:01:12,273 --> 00:01:14,608 OF THE ROSWELL, NEW MEXICO, TRUTHERS. 36 00:01:14,642 --> 00:01:17,211 THANKS FOR NOT CALLING US CONSPIRACY THEORISTS. 37 00:01:17,245 --> 00:01:18,812 WELL, WE KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE THAT TERM. 38 00:01:18,846 --> 00:01:22,250 WHILE WE DON'T AGREE WITH YOUR OPINIONS, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO. 39 00:01:22,283 --> 00:01:25,719 LIKE HOW SEPTEMBER 11th WAS AN INSIDE JOB, 40 00:01:25,753 --> 00:01:29,290 OR HOW VAPOR TRAILS FROM JETS ARE POISONOUS, 41 00:01:29,323 --> 00:01:32,693 OR HOW LIZARD PEOPLE ARE SECRETLY RUNNING THE GOVERNMENT. 42 00:01:32,726 --> 00:01:35,596 AH-AH-AH! CONFIRMATION FROM THE FBI. 43 00:01:35,629 --> 00:01:37,131 YOU ALL HEARD IT. 44 00:01:37,165 --> 00:01:40,234 NO, NO, SEE THAT'S SPECIFICALLY NOT WHAT I WAS... 45 00:01:42,370 --> 00:01:44,638 OK. WE NEED YOUR HELP 46 00:01:44,672 --> 00:01:46,740 TO STOP A KILLER WHO IS HIDING IN THIS GROUP. 47 00:01:46,774 --> 00:01:50,478 THAT'S WHY WE ARE HAVING THIS HERE IN THIS LEGION HALL 48 00:01:50,511 --> 00:01:52,146 AND NOT AT THE POLICE STATION. 49 00:01:52,180 --> 00:01:53,547 WE DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL SURVEILLED-- 50 00:01:53,581 --> 00:01:56,150 WHAT DID YOU PUT IN MY POCKET?! 51 00:01:56,184 --> 00:01:57,851 GUN! DROP IT! 52 00:01:57,885 --> 00:01:58,919 [SHOUTING, SCREAMING] 53 00:01:58,952 --> 00:02:01,822 DROP IT! 54 00:02:01,855 --> 00:02:03,791 PRENTISS: ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY CALM DOWN. 55 00:02:03,824 --> 00:02:06,727 WHAT'S YOUR NAME? 56 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,696 I'M EMILY. 57 00:02:08,729 --> 00:02:11,432 EMILY PRENTISS. IT SAYS RIGHT HERE. 58 00:02:11,465 --> 00:02:13,834 THE REASON I'M ASKING IS SO WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION. 59 00:02:13,867 --> 00:02:15,836 [BREATHING HARD] DOUG. 60 00:02:15,869 --> 00:02:17,238 I'M DOUG. 61 00:02:17,271 --> 00:02:18,906 GREAT, DOUG. LET'S JUST TAKE A SECOND. 62 00:02:18,939 --> 00:02:20,708 LET'S THINK THROUGH THE LOGIC OF THIS. 63 00:02:20,741 --> 00:02:22,876 I--I DIDN'T DO ANY OF THIS! 64 00:02:22,910 --> 00:02:24,712 WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU DID, 65 00:02:24,745 --> 00:02:27,481 BUT YOU ARE MAKING THINGS WORSE WITH THAT GUN. 66 00:02:27,515 --> 00:02:29,717 THE REASON WE ASKED YOU HERE, 67 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:32,753 THE ONLY REASON, IS TO LISTEN. THAT'S ALL. 68 00:02:32,786 --> 00:02:35,889 OK? SO JUST LISTEN. 69 00:02:35,923 --> 00:02:38,659 LISTEN. PUT THE GUN DOWN. 70 00:02:42,863 --> 00:02:45,766 I KNOW A FALSE FLAG WHEN I SEE ONE. 71 00:02:45,799 --> 00:02:47,668 YOU BITCH! NO! 72 00:02:47,701 --> 00:02:48,736 [GUNSHOT] 73 00:03:11,859 --> 00:03:13,861 CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY ABC STUDIOS, LLC AND CBS, INC. 74 00:03:22,903 --> 00:03:24,305 GARCIA: "ONCE YOU ELIMINATE THE IMPOSSIBLE, 75 00:03:24,338 --> 00:03:26,240 "WHATEVER REMAINS, NO MATTER HOW IMPROBABLE, 76 00:03:26,274 --> 00:03:27,475 MUST BE THE TRUTH." 77 00:03:27,508 --> 00:03:29,410 SIR ARTHUR CONAN DOYLE. 78 00:03:29,443 --> 00:03:33,281 [DOOR OPENS] 79 00:03:33,314 --> 00:03:36,650 CAN I GO HOME NOW? 80 00:03:36,684 --> 00:03:40,488 NO. WE'RE HOLDING YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS FOR 24 HOURS. 81 00:03:40,521 --> 00:03:41,722 YOU'RE ALL PERSONS OF INTEREST 82 00:03:41,755 --> 00:03:43,357 IN A MURDER INVESTIGATION. 83 00:03:43,391 --> 00:03:45,693 MURDER? WHAT, DOUG KILLED HIMSELF. 84 00:03:45,726 --> 00:03:49,430 TRUE. BUT THERE ARE STILL TWO OTHER VICTIMS TO ACCOUNT FOR. 85 00:03:49,463 --> 00:03:51,499 NOW, NORMALLY WHEN THERE'S A PUBLIC SUICIDE, 86 00:03:51,532 --> 00:03:53,534 IT'S BECAUSE THE SUSPECT IS THE SERIAL KILLER 87 00:03:53,567 --> 00:03:55,436 AND HE'S KILLED HIMSELF OUT OF GUILT. 88 00:03:55,469 --> 00:03:56,737 BUT WE CAN'T PROVE THAT YET, 89 00:03:56,770 --> 00:04:00,474 SO, OUR INVESTIGATION IS STILL OPEN. 90 00:04:00,508 --> 00:04:02,643 HE SAID THIS WHOLE THING WAS A FALSE FLAG, 91 00:04:02,676 --> 00:04:04,678 WHICH MEANS HE THOUGHT YOU WERE TRYING TO FRAME HIM. 92 00:04:04,712 --> 00:04:06,847 I KNOW WHAT A FALSE FLAG IS. 93 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,682 THE FBI DOESN'T FRAME PEOPLE. 94 00:04:08,716 --> 00:04:11,685 WHAT, NOT ANYMORE? 95 00:04:11,719 --> 00:04:15,956 YOU KNOW, ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS HAVE LAWYERED UP. 96 00:04:15,989 --> 00:04:18,726 CALLED US NAZIS, OR BOTH. 97 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:20,060 BUT YOU HAVEN'T. 98 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:21,429 SO? 99 00:04:21,462 --> 00:04:22,796 SO THAT TELLS ME YOU WANT TO GET 100 00:04:22,830 --> 00:04:27,034 TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS JUST AS MUCH AS WE DO. 101 00:04:27,067 --> 00:04:29,603 DO YOU KNOW WHAT A PODCAST IS? 102 00:04:29,637 --> 00:04:31,372 I DO. 103 00:04:31,405 --> 00:04:33,073 WELL, I HAVE ONE. 104 00:04:33,106 --> 00:04:34,808 SO IF WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA DO THIS, 105 00:04:34,842 --> 00:04:36,444 YOU GIVE ME BACK MY PHONE 106 00:04:36,477 --> 00:04:37,811 AND I RECORD OUR CONVERSATION 107 00:04:37,845 --> 00:04:40,548 FOR MY PODCAST, 'CAUSE I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU 108 00:04:40,581 --> 00:04:43,551 WITHOUT DOCUMENTING EVERYTHING. 109 00:04:43,584 --> 00:04:46,420 YOU WANT THIS ON THE RECORD? 110 00:04:46,454 --> 00:04:48,522 OF COURSE. I WANT THIS ON THE RECORD. 111 00:04:48,556 --> 00:04:50,658 OTHERWISE I'M LAWYERING UP WITH ALL MY FRIENDS. 112 00:04:50,691 --> 00:04:52,960 SO WHAT DO YOU SAY? 113 00:04:56,797 --> 00:04:58,466 PRENTISS: THE ANSWER'S NO. 114 00:04:58,499 --> 00:05:00,368 I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT. 115 00:05:00,401 --> 00:05:02,703 NO. SHE WILL CONTROL THE AUDIO. 116 00:05:02,736 --> 00:05:03,937 SHE CAN TWIST YOUR WORDS, 117 00:05:03,971 --> 00:05:06,340 EDIT THEM TO MAKE THE BUREAU LOOK BAD. 118 00:05:06,374 --> 00:05:08,342 WE ALREADY LOOK BAD. 119 00:05:08,376 --> 00:05:09,643 THE BRASS IS GONNA WANT TO KNOW 120 00:05:09,677 --> 00:05:12,380 HOW AND WHY DOUG KILLED HIMSELF IN FRONT OF US. 121 00:05:12,413 --> 00:05:13,581 YEAH, AND THAT'S MY ASS, 122 00:05:13,614 --> 00:05:14,848 BUT I'M NOT MAKING THIS SITUATION WORSE 123 00:05:14,882 --> 00:05:16,984 THAN IT ALREADY IS. 124 00:05:17,017 --> 00:05:19,720 GARCIA, HAVE WE CONFIRMED THAT THIS TRUTHER'S EVEN LEGIT? 125 00:05:19,753 --> 00:05:21,722 GARCIA: OF COURSE I'VE CONFIRMED THAT, AND SHE IS. 126 00:05:21,755 --> 00:05:26,660 MELISSA MILLER HAS A PRETTY POPULAR TRUTHER PODCAST, 127 00:05:26,694 --> 00:05:29,062 ESPECIALLY AROUND ROSWELL. 128 00:05:29,096 --> 00:05:30,931 SHE PROMOTES ALL KINDS OF CONSPIRACIES, 129 00:05:30,964 --> 00:05:34,502 BUT HER CAUSE CELEBRE IS STAGED SHOOTINGS. 130 00:05:34,535 --> 00:05:36,904 SO SHE THINKS THE REASON WE HAVE GUN VIOLENCE, 131 00:05:36,937 --> 00:05:38,439 IT'S BEEN FAKED BY THE GOVERNMENT 132 00:05:38,472 --> 00:05:41,709 AS A PRETEXT TO REVOKE THE SECOND AMENDMENT. NICE. 133 00:05:41,742 --> 00:05:43,611 IT'S ANOTHER REASON NOT TO DO THIS. 134 00:05:43,644 --> 00:05:46,547 OR IT'S THE EXACT REASON TO DO THIS. 135 00:05:46,580 --> 00:05:49,617 WHAT WAS TONIGHT, OTHER THAN A STAGED SHOOTING, 136 00:05:49,650 --> 00:05:51,952 AND WHY IS SHE THE ONLY ONE WILLING TO COOPERATE? 137 00:05:51,985 --> 00:05:53,821 UNSUBS LIKE TO INSERT THEMSELVES 138 00:05:53,854 --> 00:05:55,489 INTO THE INVESTIGATION. 139 00:05:55,523 --> 00:05:58,025 PROFILE SKEWS MALE, BUT SHE COULD BE A PARTNER. 140 00:05:58,058 --> 00:05:59,560 OK, THEN, IF SHE ISN'T INVOLVED, 141 00:05:59,593 --> 00:06:00,728 I CAN GET HER TO TALK. 142 00:06:00,761 --> 00:06:02,029 I'M A FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGIST. 143 00:06:02,062 --> 00:06:04,064 I'M TRAINED TO OUTWIT AND OUTSMART 144 00:06:04,097 --> 00:06:06,734 CLINICAL PSYCHOPATHS FAR MORE DANGEROUS THAN HER. 145 00:06:06,767 --> 00:06:09,803 BUT IF WE'RE WRONG, SHE'S GOING TO POST HER PODCAST. 146 00:06:09,837 --> 00:06:14,608 THEN WHAT? THEN WE'RE THE NEXT EXAMPLE OF FAKE NEWS. 147 00:06:14,642 --> 00:06:17,511 LOOK, EVERYBODY, GIVE US A SECOND. 148 00:06:17,545 --> 00:06:19,813 YOU, TOO, GARCIA. 149 00:06:24,885 --> 00:06:26,119 WE DON'T JUST HAVE EGG ON OUR FACE, 150 00:06:26,153 --> 00:06:27,755 WE HAVE BLOOD ON OUR HANDS. 151 00:06:27,788 --> 00:06:29,523 IT'S NOT LIKE THESE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS 152 00:06:29,557 --> 00:06:31,425 ARE GONNA BE QUIET. 153 00:06:31,459 --> 00:06:33,694 I AM AWARE OF THAT. I NEED OPTIONS. 154 00:06:33,727 --> 00:06:34,995 WE'RE OUT OF THEM. 155 00:06:35,028 --> 00:06:36,997 THE PROFILE SAYS IT'S A TRUTHER, 156 00:06:37,030 --> 00:06:40,200 AND ONLY ONE OF THEM IS TALKING TO US. 157 00:06:40,233 --> 00:06:42,035 WE HAVE TO THROW A HAIL MARY. 158 00:06:44,472 --> 00:06:45,706 [CELL PHONE DINGS] 159 00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:47,107 SAY SOMETHING. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE 160 00:06:47,140 --> 00:06:48,676 THE LEVELS ARE GOOD. 161 00:06:48,709 --> 00:06:50,544 I'M DR. TARA LEWIS OF THE BAU-- 162 00:06:50,578 --> 00:06:52,613 NO. SAY SOMETHING INTERESTING. 163 00:06:52,646 --> 00:06:54,648 TELL ME HOW YOU REALLY FEEL ABOUT TRUTHERS. 164 00:06:54,682 --> 00:06:56,149 MY AUDIENCE COULD USE A SENSE 165 00:06:56,183 --> 00:06:58,686 OF THE FBI's BIAS AGAINST US. 166 00:07:00,488 --> 00:07:04,024 I GOT MY Ph.D. BY TAKING A THEORY, 167 00:07:04,057 --> 00:07:07,060 TESTING IT, AND THEN PROVING MY RESULTS. 168 00:07:07,094 --> 00:07:09,563 NOW, PROVING MY RESULTS MEANS THAT I TAKE THOSE RESULTS 169 00:07:09,597 --> 00:07:11,131 AND I TURN THEM OVER TO OTHER SCIENTISTS 170 00:07:11,164 --> 00:07:12,533 TO SEE IF THEY CAN REPLICATE THEM. 171 00:07:12,566 --> 00:07:15,703 AND IF THEY CAN'T, THEN MY THEORY WAS WRONG. 172 00:07:15,736 --> 00:07:18,606 SEE, THAT'S SCIENCE. A CONSENSUS OF EVIDENCE 173 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:20,007 THAT WE CALL TRUTH. 174 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,575 WHAT YOU DO IS DIFFERENT. 175 00:07:21,609 --> 00:07:22,910 OH, NO, IT'S NOT. 176 00:07:22,943 --> 00:07:24,478 YES, IT IS. 177 00:07:24,512 --> 00:07:27,047 BECAUSE YOUR THEORIES ARE UNPROVABLE. 178 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,549 GIVE ME ONE. 179 00:07:28,582 --> 00:07:30,851 UH, PRESIDENT OBAMA WASN'T BORN HERE. 180 00:07:30,884 --> 00:07:32,520 HE WAS BORN IN KENYA. 181 00:07:32,553 --> 00:07:33,854 PERFECT. THAT'S PERFECT. 182 00:07:33,887 --> 00:07:36,857 SO, I SHOW YOU HIS LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE, 183 00:07:36,890 --> 00:07:39,092 AND THEN YOU WOULD RESPOND THAT IT'S BEEN FAKED 184 00:07:39,126 --> 00:07:41,228 BECAUSE THAT'S HOW DEEP THE CONSPIRACY GOES. 185 00:07:41,261 --> 00:07:42,563 AND THEN THAT BECOMES YOUR ARGUMENT 186 00:07:42,596 --> 00:07:44,598 AGAINST ANY EVIDENCE THAT I PROVIDE. 187 00:07:44,632 --> 00:07:46,867 IT'S A COGNITIVE TRICK THAT KEEPS YOU 188 00:07:46,900 --> 00:07:50,571 FROM HAVING TO ADMIT THAT LIFE IS MESSY. 189 00:07:50,604 --> 00:07:52,673 IT'S RANDOM. NOT EVERYTHING FITS 190 00:07:52,706 --> 00:07:55,609 THE EASY EXPLANATION THAT A CONSPIRACY GIVES YOU. 191 00:07:55,643 --> 00:07:58,679 ALL RIGHT, THEN. WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MURDERS. 192 00:07:58,712 --> 00:08:00,614 WHEN DID YOU FIRST HEAR ABOUT THEM? 193 00:08:00,648 --> 00:08:03,717 YESTERDAY. WHEN WE WERE INVITED IN. 194 00:08:03,751 --> 00:08:07,755 GARCIA: IT'S TIME TO GET OUT OUR TINFOIL HATS, MY FINE FURRY FRIENDS, 195 00:08:07,788 --> 00:08:11,158 BECAUSE WE ARE ON OUR WAY TO ROSWELL, NEW MEXICO, 196 00:08:11,191 --> 00:08:14,094 AKA, GROUND ZERO OF CONSPIRACY THEORISTS 197 00:08:14,127 --> 00:08:16,930 BECAUSE OF A CERTAIN ALIEN CRASH-- I MEAN WEATHER BALLOON. 198 00:08:16,964 --> 00:08:19,833 THE SHERIFF THERE HAS HAD TWO SUSPICIOUS DEATHS 199 00:08:19,867 --> 00:08:22,035 OVER THE LAST 48 HOURS. 200 00:08:22,069 --> 00:08:24,605 BOTH VICTIMS WERE MEMBERS OF THE TRUTHER MOVEMENT. 201 00:08:24,638 --> 00:08:27,675 YES, WHICH IS A GROUP OF CONSPIRACY THEORISTS 202 00:08:27,708 --> 00:08:30,711 WHO SHARE THEIR OUT-THERE BELIEFS ONLINE WITH EACH OTHER. 203 00:08:30,744 --> 00:08:34,214 NO JUDGMENT HERE. LET'S LOOK AT OUR FIRST VICTIM BRYAN BEHAR. 204 00:08:34,247 --> 00:08:36,717 HE BELIEVED THAT THE FLUORIDE THEY PUT IN OUR DRINKING WATER 205 00:08:36,750 --> 00:08:38,686 IS A MIND-CONTROL AGENT MEANT TO KEEP US DOCILE. 206 00:08:38,719 --> 00:08:39,720 HE DIED BY DROWNING. 207 00:08:39,753 --> 00:08:40,954 PEOPLE DROWN ALL THE TIME, YOU SAY. 208 00:08:40,988 --> 00:08:42,723 I SAY NOT IN THEIR OWN AQUARIUMS. 209 00:08:42,756 --> 00:08:44,191 SO THE M.O. MATCHES HIS CONSPIRACY. 210 00:08:44,224 --> 00:08:45,793 IS THAT A COINCIDENCE OR A CHOICE? 211 00:08:45,826 --> 00:08:48,061 THAT DEPENDS ON VICTIM NUMBER TWO. 212 00:08:48,095 --> 00:08:49,730 UH-HUH. THAT'S CARL LEE. 213 00:08:49,763 --> 00:08:51,064 HE'S A JFK CONSPIRACY NUT 214 00:08:51,098 --> 00:08:52,966 WHO WAS SHOT ONCE IN THE THROAT. 215 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,802 AS ANYONE WHO SAW THE ZAPRUDER FILM KNOWS, 216 00:08:54,835 --> 00:08:56,737 THAT'S WHERE THE FIRST BULLET STRUCK KENNEDY. 217 00:08:56,770 --> 00:09:00,140 CARL LEE WE CAN DEFINITIVELY CLASSIFY AS A HOMICIDE, 218 00:09:00,173 --> 00:09:02,710 BUT THE DROWNING DEATH--THAT COULD HAVE ANOTHER EXPLANATION. 219 00:09:02,743 --> 00:09:03,877 THAT'S WHY WE'LL BE TREATING THIS 220 00:09:03,911 --> 00:09:05,646 AS AN EQUIVOCAL DEATH INVESTIGATION. 221 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:06,847 WHEELS UP IN 20. 222 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,749 BACK UP. WHAT WAS THAT TERM YOU USED? 223 00:09:08,782 --> 00:09:10,618 EQUIVOCAL SOMETHING? 224 00:09:10,651 --> 00:09:11,919 AN EQUIVOCAL DEATH INVESTIGATION. 225 00:09:11,952 --> 00:09:14,755 IT'S AN INVESTIGATION WHERE WE CONSIDER ALL OPTIONS. 226 00:09:14,788 --> 00:09:16,857 IT COULD BE A MURDER, BUT IT COULD ALSO BE A SUICIDE 227 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:20,828 OR AN ACCIDENT OR EVEN NATURAL CAUSES. 228 00:09:20,861 --> 00:09:23,731 ARE YOU SAYING THESE MURDERS WEREN'T MURDER? 229 00:09:23,764 --> 00:09:26,166 IS THAT THE FBI's OFFICIAL POSITION? 230 00:09:26,199 --> 00:09:28,736 I'M SAYING WE LET CLUES GUIDE US TO A DEDUCTION. 231 00:09:28,769 --> 00:09:30,337 WE DON'T JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS. 232 00:09:30,370 --> 00:09:32,105 BUT AS WE WERE FLYING HERE, 233 00:09:32,139 --> 00:09:34,708 OUR TECHNICAL ANALYST UNCOVERED SOMETHING UNUSUAL. 234 00:09:34,742 --> 00:09:35,709 RIGHT. YOUR TECHNICAL ANALYST. 235 00:09:35,743 --> 00:09:38,145 THAT WOULD BE PENELOPE GARCIA? 236 00:09:38,178 --> 00:09:41,715 YEAH. I LOOKED UP YOUR WHOLE TEAM BEFORE COMING IN HERE. 237 00:09:41,749 --> 00:09:43,083 WHY DID YOU DO THAT? 238 00:09:43,116 --> 00:09:45,285 BECAUSE I'M A NATURALLY SUSPICIOUS PERSON 239 00:09:45,318 --> 00:09:48,188 WHO WANTED TO GET A FEEL FOR YOUR METHODS. 240 00:09:48,221 --> 00:09:50,891 SPECIFICALLY THE ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE THAT THE FBI 241 00:09:50,924 --> 00:09:54,862 IS WILLING TO RESORT TO TO FRAME INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN. 242 00:09:54,895 --> 00:09:58,098 AS I SAID, THE FBI DOESN'T FRAME ANYONE, 243 00:09:58,131 --> 00:09:59,800 AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL. 244 00:09:59,833 --> 00:10:03,236 WELL, I GUESS THAT DEPENDS ON WHAT GARCIA FOUND 245 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:05,739 AND HOW SHE FOUND IT. 246 00:10:05,773 --> 00:10:08,208 SO WHAT DID SHE FIND? 247 00:10:08,241 --> 00:10:09,843 GARCIA: IT LOOKS LIKE OUR TWO VICTIMS 248 00:10:09,877 --> 00:10:12,212 WERE TALKING VIA ENCRYPTED TEXTS. 249 00:10:12,245 --> 00:10:13,413 IT TOOK A WHILE TO BREAK, 250 00:10:13,446 --> 00:10:15,315 AND THEIR CONVERSATION WAS SHORT, 251 00:10:15,348 --> 00:10:17,150 BUT ITS CONTENT 252 00:10:17,184 --> 00:10:20,353 MADE MY PERFECTLY SHAPED EYEBROWS GO, "HMM?" 253 00:10:20,387 --> 00:10:22,022 CARL SAYS TO BRYAN, "I THINK I'M CLOSE 254 00:10:22,055 --> 00:10:23,290 TO FINDING OUT WHO IT IS." 255 00:10:23,323 --> 00:10:24,725 TO WHICH BRYAN SAYS, 256 00:10:24,758 --> 00:10:25,959 "MAYBE WE SHOULD GO TO THE POLICE." 257 00:10:25,993 --> 00:10:27,995 AND CARL SAYS, "WHAT GOOD WOULD THAT DO?" 258 00:10:28,028 --> 00:10:29,196 WELL, THAT COULD BE MOTIVE. 259 00:10:29,229 --> 00:10:30,430 WHATEVER CARL WAS CLOSE TO FINDING 260 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:31,899 COULD HAVE KILLED HIM AND BRYAN. 261 00:10:31,932 --> 00:10:33,300 AT FIRST GLANCE, YEAH. 262 00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:35,368 BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONSPIRACY THEORISTS HERE, 263 00:10:35,402 --> 00:10:38,305 AND A LOT OF THEM SUFFER FROM ASSOCIATION FALLACY. 264 00:10:38,338 --> 00:10:40,273 LET'S SAY YOU THOUGHT LYNDON JOHNSON 265 00:10:40,307 --> 00:10:43,376 HAD JFK KILLED IN ORDER TO ESCALATE THE WAR IN VIETNAM. 266 00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:45,145 OK, STOP RIGHT THERE. 267 00:10:45,178 --> 00:10:46,413 WHAT? 268 00:10:46,446 --> 00:10:48,381 YOU GUYS HAVE A JET? 269 00:10:48,415 --> 00:10:49,416 YES. 270 00:10:49,449 --> 00:10:50,951 A JET. 271 00:10:50,984 --> 00:10:52,953 YES. 272 00:10:52,986 --> 00:10:54,722 BLACK HELICOPTERS 273 00:10:54,755 --> 00:10:56,056 SURVEILLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. 274 00:10:56,089 --> 00:10:57,357 NO, NO, THAT'S RIDICULOUS. 275 00:10:57,390 --> 00:10:59,793 BUT A LITTLE BRANCH OF THE FBI 276 00:10:59,827 --> 00:11:01,795 HAS ITS OWN PRIVATE JET. 277 00:11:01,829 --> 00:11:04,698 OK, ONE, I NEVER SAID THE FBI DOESN'T 278 00:11:04,732 --> 00:11:05,933 HAVE BLACK HELICOPTERS. 279 00:11:05,966 --> 00:11:08,468 AND, TWO, WHEN PEOPLE ARE BEING MURDERED, 280 00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:09,770 WE HAVE TO RESPOND QUICKLY. 281 00:11:09,803 --> 00:11:12,773 [SCOFFS] A JET. 282 00:11:12,806 --> 00:11:14,341 I CAN'T EVEN. 283 00:11:14,374 --> 00:11:16,243 SORRY. WHERE WERE WE? 284 00:11:16,276 --> 00:11:18,211 LET'S SAY YOU THOUGHT LYNDON JOHNSON 285 00:11:18,245 --> 00:11:21,782 HAD JFK KILLED IN ORDER TO ESCALATE THE WAR IN VIETNAM. 286 00:11:21,815 --> 00:11:23,717 THAT'S RIDICULOUS. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT-- 287 00:11:23,751 --> 00:11:24,785 PRENTISS: NO, NO. 288 00:11:24,818 --> 00:11:26,920 WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO THAT AGAIN. 289 00:11:26,954 --> 00:11:28,688 GO AHEAD, LUKE. 290 00:11:30,157 --> 00:11:33,160 UH, MY POINT IS, THAT IF YOU THOUGHT 291 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:35,028 THE GOVERNMENT COULD DO THAT, 292 00:11:35,062 --> 00:11:36,229 THEN YOU WERE LIKELY BELIEVE THAT THEY'D 293 00:11:36,263 --> 00:11:37,931 BROUGHT DOWN THE TOWERS ON 9-11. 294 00:11:37,965 --> 00:11:39,833 PRETTY SOON YOU'RE DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE 295 00:11:39,867 --> 00:11:41,869 AND YOU SEE EVERYTHING AS A PLOT. 296 00:11:41,902 --> 00:11:43,837 SO MAYBE THESE GUYS WEREN'T INTO ANYTHING. 297 00:11:43,871 --> 00:11:46,907 MAYBE THEY JUST TALKED THEMSELVES INTO A GROUP DELUSION. 298 00:11:46,940 --> 00:11:48,976 OK, WE SHOULD INVESTIGATE THAT WHEN WE LAND. 299 00:11:49,009 --> 00:11:51,111 AND SINCE THE POLICE ARE MENTIONED SO PROMINENTLY 300 00:11:51,144 --> 00:11:52,946 ON THE TEXT, THEY MIGHT KNOW 301 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:54,147 WHAT THE VICTIMS WERE LOOKING INTO. 302 00:11:54,181 --> 00:11:57,985 THE CHICAGO MOB, RIGHT? KILLED JFK. 303 00:11:58,018 --> 00:11:59,853 HE GETS IT. 304 00:11:59,887 --> 00:12:01,822 NO. DON'T GET HIM STARTED, MATT. 305 00:12:01,855 --> 00:12:05,058 NEXT, HE'LL BE SHOWING YOU YOUTUBE CLIPS. 306 00:12:06,193 --> 00:12:07,828 SO I'M SURE WHEN YOU FLEW IN, 307 00:12:07,861 --> 00:12:09,863 THEY SHOWED YOU CARL AND BRYAN'S POLICE RECORD. 308 00:12:09,897 --> 00:12:13,000 THEY DID. AND WHAT WE SAW WERE 4 YEARS OF REPORTS 309 00:12:13,033 --> 00:12:14,968 THAT BOTH MEN WERE CONVINCED SOMEONE WAS WATCHING THEM. 310 00:12:15,002 --> 00:12:17,004 BUT DESPITE HIS BEST EFFORTS, SHERIFF BOWMAN 311 00:12:17,037 --> 00:12:18,939 WAS NEVER ABLE TO FIND ANY EVIDENCE OF STALKING. 312 00:12:18,972 --> 00:12:21,274 OH, YEAH. 'CAUSE HE TRIED REALLY HARD. 313 00:12:21,308 --> 00:12:22,910 YOU KNOW WHAT WAS MUCH MORE INTERESTING 314 00:12:22,943 --> 00:12:26,880 WAS WHAT WE FOUND WHEN WE WALKED THE CRIME SCENES. 315 00:12:26,914 --> 00:12:29,850 THE GLASS IS 3/4 OF AN INCH THICK AND THAT'S STURDY. 316 00:12:29,883 --> 00:12:31,952 IF YOU WANTED TO DROWN SOMEONE IN AN AQUARIUM, 317 00:12:31,985 --> 00:12:33,453 THAT WOULD DO THE TRICK. 318 00:12:33,486 --> 00:12:35,923 THEY SAID THERE WAS A BLEACH SOLUTION IN THE WATER, 319 00:12:35,956 --> 00:12:37,124 SO HE WAS PROBABLY CLEANING IT 320 00:12:37,157 --> 00:12:38,391 AND HIS EAR BUDS WERE IN. 321 00:12:38,425 --> 00:12:41,028 MAKE IT EASY TO SNEAK UP ON BRYAN. 322 00:12:41,061 --> 00:12:44,865 UNSUB WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO WORK TOO HARD. 323 00:12:44,898 --> 00:12:46,566 BRYAN WAS STARTLED. 324 00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:48,836 HE TOOK IN WATER AND BLEACH, 325 00:12:48,869 --> 00:12:52,172 AND HE WAS ASPHYXIATED BEFORE HE KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 326 00:12:52,205 --> 00:12:54,975 HOW DID THE UNSUB GET IN HERE? 327 00:12:55,008 --> 00:12:57,344 HEY, MATT, A QUESTION FOR YOU. 328 00:12:57,377 --> 00:12:59,312 ANY EVIDENCE OF A BREAK-IN AT YOUR CRIME SCENE? 329 00:12:59,346 --> 00:13:01,114 HANG ON, JJ. LET ME CHECK. 330 00:13:01,148 --> 00:13:02,482 ANY SIGNS OF FORCED ENTRY? 331 00:13:02,515 --> 00:13:03,984 NO, SIR. 332 00:13:04,017 --> 00:13:05,919 NO, NONE HERE EITHER. 333 00:13:05,953 --> 00:13:09,422 WHAT I AM SEEING IS AN UNSUB WHO COVERS UP HIS TRACKS. 334 00:13:09,456 --> 00:13:12,993 IT LOOKS LIKE HE SHOT CARL IN THE THROAT... 335 00:13:13,026 --> 00:13:15,295 BULLET WAS A THROUGH AND THROUGH. 336 00:13:15,328 --> 00:13:17,497 CAME OUT THE OTHER SIDE OF CARL'S NECK 337 00:13:17,530 --> 00:13:19,032 AND WENT IN THE WALL. 338 00:13:19,066 --> 00:13:21,034 DUG IT OUT, PICKED UP THE CASING, 339 00:13:21,068 --> 00:13:22,269 TOOK THE GUN WITH HIM. 340 00:13:22,302 --> 00:13:24,437 SO THIS GUY KNOWS HOW TO CLEAN UP AFTER HIMSELF 341 00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:28,041 AND HOW TO GET IN AND OUT OF TWO HOUSES WITHOUT DETECTION. 342 00:13:30,043 --> 00:13:32,012 JJ, LET ME CALL YOU BACK. 343 00:13:40,287 --> 00:13:42,389 LOOKS LIKE AN RFID CARD. 344 00:13:42,422 --> 00:13:45,525 MM-HMM. WHAT'S IT GO TO? 345 00:13:45,558 --> 00:13:49,029 THAT'S THE QUESTION. 346 00:14:07,580 --> 00:14:10,250 HUH. WELL, HELLO. 347 00:14:19,993 --> 00:14:21,328 HUH. 348 00:14:21,361 --> 00:14:23,163 THAT GUN'S MISSING. 349 00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:25,365 WELL, IT MEANS THE UNSUB'S NO MASTERMIND. 350 00:14:25,398 --> 00:14:28,268 IT'S BEEN RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSE THE WHOLE TIME. 351 00:14:28,301 --> 00:14:30,670 SO WE WENT THROUGH CARL'S METICULOUS LOG 352 00:14:30,703 --> 00:14:33,606 OF HIS HARDWARE, AND THE MISSING GUN SHOULD BE HERE. 353 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,475 IT IS A BODYGUARD 380. 354 00:14:35,508 --> 00:14:38,611 NOW, IF THE UNSUB FOUND THIS IN A SECRET COMPARTMENT, 355 00:14:38,645 --> 00:14:41,314 THEN HE KNOWS CARL, PROBABLY VERY WELL. 356 00:14:41,348 --> 00:14:44,217 AND BASED ON THE FORTRESS THAT CARL LIVED IN, 357 00:14:44,251 --> 00:14:46,153 IT'D PROBABLY BE ANOTHER TRUTHER. 358 00:14:46,186 --> 00:14:48,188 NO ONE ELSE COULD GET THAT CLOSE. 359 00:14:48,221 --> 00:14:51,224 AND THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY THERE WAS NO FORCED ENTRY AT BRYAN'S EITHER. 360 00:14:51,258 --> 00:14:53,393 SO WHEN CARL SAID, "I'M CLOSE TO FINDING OUT 361 00:14:53,426 --> 00:14:55,328 WHO IT IS," HE WASN'T TALKING ABOUT SOME SECRET CABAL, 362 00:14:55,362 --> 00:14:56,964 HE WAS TALKING ABOUT A FRIEND. 363 00:14:56,997 --> 00:14:59,366 PRENTISS: SOMEONE HE WAS WILLING TO CALL THE COPS ON. 364 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:02,135 WE SHOULD BRING ALL THE TRUTHERS IN FOR QUESTIONING. 365 00:15:02,169 --> 00:15:03,536 NO, NO, THAT WON'T WORK. 366 00:15:03,570 --> 00:15:05,305 THEY WON'T COOPERATE UNDER COERCION. 367 00:15:05,338 --> 00:15:08,341 LOOK, I SAY WE LAY ALL OUR CARDS OUT ON THE TABLE. 368 00:15:08,375 --> 00:15:09,509 LET'S DELIVER OUR PROFILE TO THEM. 369 00:15:09,542 --> 00:15:11,044 OH, THAT'S RISKY. 370 00:15:11,078 --> 00:15:12,479 BUT WORTH IT. EITHER ONE OF THE TRUTHERS 371 00:15:12,512 --> 00:15:14,414 POINTS US TO THE UNSUB... 372 00:15:14,447 --> 00:15:16,416 OR HE SHOWS UP HIMSELF. 373 00:15:16,449 --> 00:15:18,418 AND THAT BRINGS US UP TO TONIGHT. 374 00:15:18,451 --> 00:15:20,653 BALLISTICS CONFIRMED THAT THE GUN THAT KILLED CARL 375 00:15:20,687 --> 00:15:22,422 WAS THE ONE THAT DOUG USED ON HIMSELF. 376 00:15:22,455 --> 00:15:24,391 ALL THE EVIDENCE POINTS TO DOUG DOWNEY 377 00:15:24,424 --> 00:15:26,493 AS OUR KILLER, EXCEPT... 378 00:15:26,526 --> 00:15:28,095 EXCEPT YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TYING DOUG 379 00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:30,297 TO BRYAN'S DROWNING. 380 00:15:30,330 --> 00:15:33,967 MELISSA, I'VE BEEN AS TRANSPARENT AS I CAN POSSIBLY BE. 381 00:15:34,001 --> 00:15:37,537 IS THERE ANYTHING WE'VE MISSED? 382 00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:39,406 [SIGHS] 383 00:15:39,439 --> 00:15:41,074 ONE THING. 384 00:15:41,108 --> 00:15:42,375 BUT YOU DIDN'T MISS IT, 385 00:15:42,409 --> 00:15:44,544 YOU COVERED IT UP. 386 00:15:44,577 --> 00:15:47,214 SPECIFICALLY, THAT THE SHERIFF 387 00:15:47,247 --> 00:15:50,450 MADE US ALL WALK THROUGH A METAL DETECTOR. 388 00:15:50,483 --> 00:15:52,185 WHAT? 389 00:15:52,219 --> 00:15:54,221 DON'T PRETEND YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT. 390 00:15:54,254 --> 00:15:55,288 AND DON'T PRETEND YOU DON'T KNOW WHY. 391 00:15:55,322 --> 00:15:57,090 SOMEONE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT 392 00:15:57,124 --> 00:16:00,293 PLANTED A GUN ON DOUG. 393 00:16:00,327 --> 00:16:05,432 BECAUSE WHAT WAS IT THAT HE WAS SAYING EARLIER TONIGHT? 394 00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:08,168 WHAT DID YOU PUT IN MY POCKET?! 395 00:16:08,201 --> 00:16:09,569 GUN! DROP IT! 396 00:16:09,602 --> 00:16:11,138 [SHOUTING] 397 00:16:11,171 --> 00:16:13,240 MELISSA, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. 398 00:16:13,273 --> 00:16:15,775 YOU TELL ME WHAT'S MORE BELIEVABLE-- 399 00:16:15,808 --> 00:16:18,545 A MISSING GUN IN A WACKY COMPARTMENT 400 00:16:18,578 --> 00:16:21,281 OR THE POLICE PLANTED 401 00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:23,416 A BODYGUARD 380, 402 00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:27,120 A VERY POPULAR FIREARM IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, ON DOUG. 403 00:16:27,154 --> 00:16:30,323 THEN, THEY CALL THEIR FRIENDS ALL THE WAY IN QUANTICO 404 00:16:30,357 --> 00:16:33,726 AND YOU GUYS GET ON YOUR FANCY JET 405 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,364 AND COME OUT HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COVER-UP'S COMPLETE. 406 00:16:37,397 --> 00:16:40,400 THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED. 407 00:16:40,433 --> 00:16:44,437 AM I YOUR UNSUB? YES OR NO? 408 00:16:44,471 --> 00:16:46,473 YOU ARE A PERSON OF INTEREST, 409 00:16:46,506 --> 00:16:48,408 JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER TRUTHER 410 00:16:48,441 --> 00:16:49,509 IN THIS BUILDING TONIGHT. 411 00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:51,278 THAT'S A YES. 412 00:16:51,311 --> 00:16:53,346 WHICH IS WHY I'M RECORDING ALL OF THIS, 413 00:16:53,380 --> 00:16:56,649 TO SHOW THE WORLD EXACTLY HOW FAR 414 00:16:56,683 --> 00:16:58,518 THE FBI IS WILLING TO GO 415 00:16:58,551 --> 00:17:00,420 TO COVER UP THE TRUTH. 416 00:17:00,453 --> 00:17:03,256 OK. LET'S TAKE A MOMENT. 417 00:17:03,290 --> 00:17:04,291 I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN OFF TRACK. 418 00:17:04,324 --> 00:17:05,558 NO, NO. NO, WE'RE, UH, 419 00:17:05,592 --> 00:17:08,061 WE'RE RIGHT WHERE WE NEED TO BE. 420 00:17:08,095 --> 00:17:12,465 SEE, I WANTED THE BRILLIANT SCIENCE OF BEHAVIORAL PROFILING 421 00:17:12,499 --> 00:17:15,102 TO PROVIDE AN ANSWER FOR ALL THIS. 422 00:17:15,135 --> 00:17:16,603 I REALLY DID. 423 00:17:16,636 --> 00:17:21,441 BUT RIGHT NOW, FROM WHERE I'M SITTING, 424 00:17:21,474 --> 00:17:24,411 THIS CRAZY CONSPIRACY THEORIST 425 00:17:24,444 --> 00:17:27,447 IS THE ONLY ONE MAKING ANY SENSE. 426 00:17:33,686 --> 00:17:34,754 GUYS, HOLD UP. 427 00:17:34,787 --> 00:17:36,656 CAN WE PLUG THIS IN SOMEWHERE? 428 00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:37,724 YES, MA'AM. 429 00:17:37,757 --> 00:17:38,558 SO THIS IS THE METAL DETECTOR 430 00:17:38,591 --> 00:17:40,393 MM-HMM. YOU HAD AT THE LEGION HALL? 431 00:17:40,427 --> 00:17:42,362 AND YOU MADE ALL THE TRUTHERS WALK THROUGH IT. 432 00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:44,131 YEP. AND THEN AFTER THAT 433 00:17:44,164 --> 00:17:45,198 YOU BROUGHT IT BACK HERE TO THE POLICE STATIONS, 434 00:17:45,232 --> 00:17:46,433 YOU HAVEN'T TOUCHED IT SINCE? 435 00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:47,567 SHERIFF, WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL US 436 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,136 YOU WERE GONNA DO THAT? 437 00:17:49,169 --> 00:17:50,770 YOU TOLD US YOU DIDN'T WANT TO SPOOK THE TRUTHERS. 438 00:17:50,803 --> 00:17:52,872 YOU ALSO TOLD US THE KILLER MIGHT SHOW UP, 439 00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:54,874 SO THIS WAS FOR OUR PROTECTION. 440 00:17:54,907 --> 00:17:56,776 CAN YOU TELL ME I WAS WRONG? 441 00:17:56,809 --> 00:17:59,112 NO, SHERIFF, YOU WEREN'T WRONG, 442 00:17:59,146 --> 00:18:00,847 BUT IT DOES BEG THE BIGGER QUESTION. 443 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,483 HOW THE HELL DID DOUG GET A GUN THROUGH THAT THING? 444 00:18:03,516 --> 00:18:04,817 I WAS HOPING YOU COULD ANSWER THAT, 445 00:18:04,851 --> 00:18:08,121 YOU ALL BEING THE GENIUSES WITH THIS INVESTIGATION. 446 00:18:08,155 --> 00:18:10,157 JJ: NO, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. 447 00:18:10,190 --> 00:18:11,224 ALVEZ: WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S NOT RIGHT? 448 00:18:11,258 --> 00:18:12,392 IT SAYS IT RIGHT HERE. 449 00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:14,261 NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAW. 450 00:18:14,294 --> 00:18:15,495 DID THAT JUST-- 451 00:18:15,528 --> 00:18:18,731 LEWIS: YEAH. YEAH, IT DID. 452 00:18:18,765 --> 00:18:20,667 WHAT IS IT? 453 00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:23,436 [BEEP] 454 00:18:23,470 --> 00:18:26,473 HOW IN THE WORLD COULD THAT HAPPEN? 455 00:18:26,506 --> 00:18:28,208 I THINK I MIGHT KNOW. 456 00:18:28,241 --> 00:18:29,476 MELISSA: BULLCRAP. 457 00:18:29,509 --> 00:18:32,145 BULL CRAP. 458 00:18:32,179 --> 00:18:34,847 YOU KNOW, I WOULD USE STRONGER LANGUAGE, 459 00:18:34,881 --> 00:18:36,249 BUT I DON'T WANT THIS PODCAST 460 00:18:36,283 --> 00:18:37,484 TO GET AN "EXPLICIT" RATING. 461 00:18:37,517 --> 00:18:38,785 WELL, IT'S THE TRUTH. 462 00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:41,654 METAL DETECTORS REQUIRE PRECISE CALIBRATION. 463 00:18:41,688 --> 00:18:44,891 OTHERWISE, THEY'RE SUSCEPTIBLE TO ALL KINDS OF INTERFERENCE. 464 00:18:44,924 --> 00:18:47,227 PHOTOCOPIERS, BLUETOOTH, EVEN FLUORESCENT LIGHTING. 465 00:18:47,260 --> 00:18:49,362 THE SHERIFF WAS IN SUCH A HURRY TO GET IT SET UP 466 00:18:49,396 --> 00:18:51,531 DOWN AT THE LEGION HALL THAT HE ASSUMED 467 00:18:51,564 --> 00:18:53,166 IT WOULD WORK THE SAME WAY IT ALWAYS HAD, 468 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,668 BUT IT DIDN'T. 469 00:18:55,702 --> 00:18:57,904 I STILL DON'T BUY IT. 470 00:18:57,937 --> 00:18:59,272 DO YOU KNOW WHY? 471 00:18:59,306 --> 00:19:01,208 WHY WHAT? 472 00:19:01,241 --> 00:19:03,210 WHY YOU DON'T BUY IT. 473 00:19:03,243 --> 00:19:05,278 I CAN TELL YOU. 474 00:19:05,312 --> 00:19:08,181 [EXHALES] 475 00:19:08,215 --> 00:19:10,583 IT'S CALLED PROPORTIONALITY BIAS. 476 00:19:10,617 --> 00:19:12,652 YOU SEE, IT'S OUR NATURAL HUMAN INSTINCT 477 00:19:12,685 --> 00:19:16,323 TO ASSUME THAT BIG EVENTS HAVE BIG CAUSES. 478 00:19:16,356 --> 00:19:17,657 WE DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE THAT A LONE GUNMAN 479 00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:20,693 KILLED JFK WITH A RIFLE HE BOUGHT FOR 19.99, 480 00:19:20,727 --> 00:19:22,962 OR THAT HIJACKERS BROUGHT DOWN 4 PLANES 481 00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:24,631 USING ONLY BOX CUTTERS. 482 00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:26,533 I MEAN, THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER EXPLANATION. 483 00:19:26,566 --> 00:19:29,436 WE NEED AN ANSWER THAT'S MORE SATISFYING, 484 00:19:29,469 --> 00:19:32,205 BUT SOMETIMES IT JUST ISN'T. 485 00:19:32,239 --> 00:19:33,873 YOU KNOW? MACHINES BREAK DOWN. 486 00:19:33,906 --> 00:19:37,544 SYSTEMS DON'T WORK. LIFE IS MESSY. 487 00:19:37,577 --> 00:19:39,312 IT'S RANDOM. 488 00:19:39,346 --> 00:19:42,349 FINE. LET'S JUST TEST YOUR VERSION, SHALL WE? 489 00:19:42,382 --> 00:19:43,516 LET'S. 490 00:19:43,550 --> 00:19:46,319 YOU'RE SAYING THAT DOUG SNUCK A GUN 491 00:19:46,353 --> 00:19:48,288 THROUGH A METAL DETECTOR, A METAL DETECTOR 492 00:19:48,321 --> 00:19:50,257 HE WOULD HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WAS BROKEN. 493 00:19:50,290 --> 00:19:51,591 IS THAT YOUR STORY? 494 00:19:51,624 --> 00:19:54,661 WELL, WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME A BETTER ONE. 495 00:19:54,694 --> 00:19:56,329 NOT MY JOB. 496 00:19:56,363 --> 00:19:58,565 WHAT MY AUDIENCE WANTS TO HEAR, HOWEVER, 497 00:19:58,598 --> 00:20:01,501 IS HOW WELL YOUR TEAM DOES YOURS. 498 00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:04,371 ALL RIGHT, WELL, WHILE AGENT PRENTISS AND I 499 00:20:04,404 --> 00:20:05,572 WERE FIGURING OUT THE MYSTERY 500 00:20:05,605 --> 00:20:07,774 OF THE MALFUNCTIONING METAL DETECTOR, 501 00:20:07,807 --> 00:20:10,577 AGENTS JAREAU AND SIMMONS HEADED TO THE MORGUE. 502 00:20:10,610 --> 00:20:13,246 SO LET'S PRESUME BRYAN BEHAR HERE DIED OF ASPHYXIATION 503 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,249 FROM DROWNING. WHAT I CAN'T EXPLAIN IS THIS. 504 00:20:16,283 --> 00:20:18,551 THESE CHEMICAL BURNS ON HIS FACE. 505 00:20:18,585 --> 00:20:19,919 WELL, HE WAS DROWNED IN A BLEACH SOLUTION. 506 00:20:19,952 --> 00:20:21,388 WOULD THAT DO THIS? 507 00:20:21,421 --> 00:20:22,989 NO. THIS LOOKS LIKE SOME FORM 508 00:20:23,022 --> 00:20:24,657 OF AEROSOLIZED TOXIN, 509 00:20:24,691 --> 00:20:26,993 BUT DAMNED IF I COULD TELL YOU WHAT KIND. 510 00:20:27,026 --> 00:20:29,296 AND THAT'S STILL NOT THE ODDEST THING I'VE SEEN TODAY. 511 00:20:29,329 --> 00:20:32,299 MR. CARL LEE, SHOT IN THE THROAT, 512 00:20:32,332 --> 00:20:36,869 BUT COVERING HIS WOUND, THIS DOOZY. 513 00:20:36,903 --> 00:20:38,605 THE BLOOD MATCHES MR. LEE. 514 00:20:38,638 --> 00:20:40,940 MYOGLOBIN ON THE BLOOD SAYS HE WAS ALIVE WHEN IT HAPPENED, 515 00:20:40,973 --> 00:20:42,942 AND ONLY HIS PRINTS ARE ON IT. 516 00:20:42,975 --> 00:20:46,346 OBVIOUSLY IT'S FROM A BOOK, BUT I CAN'T TELL WHICH ONE. 517 00:20:46,379 --> 00:20:47,480 WE CAN. 518 00:20:47,514 --> 00:20:50,683 IT'S FROM "THE CATCHER IN THE RYE." 519 00:20:50,717 --> 00:20:52,385 WOW. 520 00:20:52,419 --> 00:20:54,621 DOES THAT MEAN SOMETHING TO YOU? 521 00:20:54,654 --> 00:20:55,788 [SCOFFS] 522 00:20:55,822 --> 00:20:58,691 OF COURSE THAT MEANS SOMETHING TO ME. 523 00:20:58,725 --> 00:21:00,360 "THE CATCHER IN THE RYE" HAS BEEN LINKED 524 00:21:00,393 --> 00:21:01,828 TO MULTIPLE KILLERS SINCE IT WAS FIRST PUBLISHED. 525 00:21:01,861 --> 00:21:04,664 AND WHEN MARK DAVID CHAPMAN SHOT JOHN LENNON, 526 00:21:04,697 --> 00:21:07,334 HE SAID, "READ 'CATCHER IN THE RYE.' 527 00:21:07,367 --> 00:21:08,668 THAT'S MY STATEMENT." 528 00:21:08,701 --> 00:21:10,303 IT WAS FOUND ON JOHN HINCKLEY'S BOOKSHELF 529 00:21:10,337 --> 00:21:11,404 AFTER HE SHOT REAGAN. 530 00:21:11,438 --> 00:21:14,441 OSWALD, MANSON, ROBERT BARDO, 531 00:21:14,474 --> 00:21:15,808 THEY WERE ALL OBSESSED WITH IT. 532 00:21:15,842 --> 00:21:17,544 IT WAS THE ORIGINAL BRAINWASHING TOOL 533 00:21:17,577 --> 00:21:19,011 OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. 534 00:21:19,045 --> 00:21:20,079 I WOULDN'T CALL IT THAT. 535 00:21:20,112 --> 00:21:21,548 OF COURSE YOU WOULDN'T. 536 00:21:21,581 --> 00:21:22,782 BECAUSE THEN YOU'D HAVE TO ADMIT 537 00:21:22,815 --> 00:21:25,017 HOW SOPHISTICATED THE WHOLE-SCALE DUPING 538 00:21:25,051 --> 00:21:26,419 OF THIS NATION HAS BECOME. 539 00:21:26,453 --> 00:21:27,454 I'M NOT FOLLOWING YOU. 540 00:21:27,487 --> 00:21:31,958 AURORA, ORLANDO, SANDY HOOK. 541 00:21:31,991 --> 00:21:33,092 THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT 542 00:21:33,125 --> 00:21:35,094 SHOT UP A BUNCH OF EMPTY BUILDINGS 543 00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:36,596 AND THEN GATHERED EVERYTHING UP 544 00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:38,331 AND TRADED IT AMONGST THEMSELVES 545 00:21:38,365 --> 00:21:42,902 BECAUSE THAT'S HOW PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY WORKS. 546 00:21:42,935 --> 00:21:45,438 SANDY HOOK WAS STAGED? 547 00:21:45,472 --> 00:21:48,575 SANDY HOOK WAS STAGED THE WORST. 548 00:21:48,608 --> 00:21:50,510 ALL THOSE ACTORS THEY THREW IN FRONT OF CAMERAS 549 00:21:50,543 --> 00:21:52,111 TO BE GRIEVING PARENTS. 550 00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:54,581 I WAS SCREAMING AT MY TELEVISION SET, 551 00:21:54,614 --> 00:21:56,516 "YOU'RE LYING!" 552 00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:58,418 AND IF THEY WOULD LIE ABOUT THAT, 553 00:21:58,451 --> 00:22:01,421 THEN THEY WOULD ABSOLUTELY LIE ABOUT A METAL DETECTOR. 554 00:22:01,454 --> 00:22:05,525 SO LET ME MAKE ONE THING CLEAR MOVING FORWARD. 555 00:22:05,558 --> 00:22:09,996 WHEN I SAY THEY, I MEAN YOU. 556 00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:17,404 GIVE ME ONE SECOND. 557 00:22:20,473 --> 00:22:24,811 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 558 00:22:36,823 --> 00:22:39,526 SON OF A-- [SCREAMING, BANGING] 559 00:22:39,559 --> 00:22:43,596 WHAT THE HELL KIND OF OUTFIT YOU RUNNING HERE, AGENT? 560 00:22:50,437 --> 00:22:53,440 YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT? 561 00:22:53,473 --> 00:22:55,442 NO. 562 00:22:58,845 --> 00:23:02,449 IT'S OK TO TAP OUT IF YOU WANT. 563 00:23:02,482 --> 00:23:05,752 NO. EMILY, I CAN DO THIS. 564 00:23:05,785 --> 00:23:07,487 HAS SHE SAID ANYTHING THAT POINTS 565 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,155 TO HER INVOLVEMENT IN THE MURDERS? 566 00:23:09,188 --> 00:23:12,559 HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY ANSWERS OUT OF HER? 567 00:23:12,592 --> 00:23:15,728 MAYBE IT'S TIME TO CHANGE UP THE STRATEGY. 568 00:23:25,004 --> 00:23:26,673 WHERE'S DR. LEWIS? 569 00:23:26,706 --> 00:23:29,576 I'M SSA JAREAU. I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU 570 00:23:29,609 --> 00:23:31,811 ABOUT YOUR FAVORITE BOOK, "CATCHER IN THE RYE." 571 00:23:31,844 --> 00:23:35,482 [LAUGHS] I GET IT. YOU'RE ROTATING AGENTS NOW, 572 00:23:35,515 --> 00:23:37,216 WEARING ME DOWN SO I CAN'T SEE YOUR LIES. 573 00:23:37,249 --> 00:23:38,518 IS THAT THE GAME? 574 00:23:38,551 --> 00:23:40,553 I JUST HAD SOME INFORMATION 575 00:23:40,587 --> 00:23:42,622 AGENT LEWIS DIDN'T, 576 00:23:42,655 --> 00:23:44,090 BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT-- 577 00:23:44,123 --> 00:23:45,525 OH, NO, I WANT TO HEAR IT. 578 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,465 [DING] 579 00:23:52,499 --> 00:23:56,603 SO AFTER WE FOUND SUCH A PROMINENT CLUE ON CARL, 580 00:23:56,636 --> 00:23:58,871 WE WANTED TO STUDY THE ORIGINAL TEXT, 581 00:23:58,905 --> 00:24:00,473 SO WE GOT A COPY OF THE BOOK. 582 00:24:00,507 --> 00:24:02,642 APPARENTLY, "CATCHER IN THE RYE" 583 00:24:02,675 --> 00:24:05,712 IS THE LOCAL BOOK CLUB SELECTION THIS MONTH. 584 00:24:05,745 --> 00:24:08,047 AND DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE TWO ACTUAL... 585 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,649 ALVEZ: ...BRICK AND MORTAR BOOKSTORES IN ROSWELL? 586 00:24:09,682 --> 00:24:11,584 BUT ONE OF THE OWNERS WAS HAPPY TO GIVE ME A COPY. 587 00:24:11,618 --> 00:24:12,585 WHAT PAGE IS IT? 588 00:24:12,619 --> 00:24:14,587 UH, 76. THAT'S WHAT WAS ON CARL. 589 00:24:14,621 --> 00:24:17,590 OK, HERE IT IS. IT, UH, IT STARTS MID-SENTENCE. 590 00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:19,992 "DON'T SEE HOW HE COULD LIKE A PHONY BOOK LIKE THAT 591 00:24:20,026 --> 00:24:22,662 AND STILL LIKE THE ONE BY RING LARDNER." 592 00:24:22,695 --> 00:24:24,664 NO, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. 593 00:24:24,697 --> 00:24:26,533 WHAT DO YOU MEAN, IT'S NOT RIGHT? I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. 594 00:24:26,566 --> 00:24:27,667 THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAW. 595 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:29,969 PRENTISS: DID THAT JUST-- 596 00:24:30,002 --> 00:24:32,639 YEAH, SEE, THIS PAGE 76 IS DIFFERENT. 597 00:24:32,672 --> 00:24:34,240 THE PAGE ON CARL'S THROAT WAS ANNOTATED. 598 00:24:34,273 --> 00:24:37,209 THE PUBLISHER BOLDED TERMS AND PHRASES FOR EMPHASIS. 599 00:24:37,243 --> 00:24:39,646 WELL, THAT WOULD THROW THE WHOLE LAYOUT OF THE BOOK OFF 600 00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:41,614 AND THEN YOUR PAGE 76 WOULDN'T LOOK LIKE THIS ONE. 601 00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:44,651 OK, THERE ARE TWO EDITIONS OF THE BOOK. THAT'S COMMON. 602 00:24:44,684 --> 00:24:47,620 BUT MAYBE IT'S NOT THE PAGE THAT'S IMPORTANT. 603 00:24:47,654 --> 00:24:49,589 MAYBE IT'S THE EDITION. 604 00:24:49,622 --> 00:24:51,891 THE DEVIL'S IN THE PITCHFORKY LITTLE DETAILS, 605 00:24:51,924 --> 00:24:52,925 MY FRIENDS. 606 00:24:52,959 --> 00:24:55,027 I MATCHED THE FORMATTING 607 00:24:55,061 --> 00:24:57,897 OF THE TEXT ON POOR DOOMED CARL 608 00:24:57,930 --> 00:24:59,532 TO A LOCAL PUBLISHER. 609 00:24:59,566 --> 00:25:01,834 HE GOES BY THE NAME OF BOB ORCI. 610 00:25:01,868 --> 00:25:04,571 HE WRITES CONSPIRACY- RELATED COMMENTARY 611 00:25:04,604 --> 00:25:07,640 FOR BOOKS LIKE "BEHOLD A PALE HORSE," 612 00:25:07,674 --> 00:25:09,542 "PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF ZION," 613 00:25:09,576 --> 00:25:10,677 "MEIN KAMPF." 614 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:11,678 BOOKS THE TRUTHERS LOVE. 615 00:25:11,711 --> 00:25:14,013 RIGHT NOW WE NEED AS MUCH EVIDENCE AS POSSIBLE 616 00:25:14,046 --> 00:25:15,648 TO PROVE THAT DOUG IS OUR UNSUB. 617 00:25:15,682 --> 00:25:17,684 IF HE BOUGHT THE BOOK WE FOUND ON CARL, 618 00:25:17,717 --> 00:25:18,618 IT STRENGTHENS OUR CASE. 619 00:25:18,651 --> 00:25:20,553 LUKE, YOU AND MATT, BRING IN THIS PUBLISHER. 620 00:25:20,587 --> 00:25:22,121 I'M ON IT. GARCIA, CAN YOU HELP ME OUT WITH AN ADDRESS? 621 00:25:22,154 --> 00:25:24,891 YEAH, I'M WORKING ON THE PHYSICAL ADDRESS OF MR. ORCI AS WE SPEAK. 622 00:25:24,924 --> 00:25:26,693 THE THING IS, HE LIVES SO FAR OUT THERE 623 00:25:26,726 --> 00:25:28,294 THAT IT'S NOT A PLACE WHERE THERE ARE STREET NUMBERS 624 00:25:28,327 --> 00:25:29,829 ON THE HOUSES, SO THE CLOSEST SINGLE 625 00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:31,197 PHYSICAL ADDRESS I CAN GET YOU IS... 626 00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:32,298 ROUTE 3, GREENWOOD WAY? 627 00:25:32,331 --> 00:25:33,733 YOU KNOW HIM? 628 00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:35,101 BY REPUTATION. HE'S NOT A TRUTHER. 629 00:25:35,134 --> 00:25:36,268 HE'S AN ANARCHIST. HE'S DANGEROUS. 630 00:25:36,302 --> 00:25:37,303 HOW DANGEROUS? 631 00:25:37,336 --> 00:25:40,006 HE HAS FERTILIZER LINING HIS PLACE AS AN EXPLOSIVE. 632 00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:41,641 PRENTISS! 633 00:25:41,674 --> 00:25:43,643 WAIT. THAT FAR OUT IN THE DESERT, 634 00:25:43,676 --> 00:25:44,443 THERE'S NO CELL SERVICE. 635 00:25:44,476 --> 00:25:46,613 YOU'RE NOT GONNA REACH THEM BY PHONE. 636 00:25:54,253 --> 00:25:58,658 [COYOTE HOWLING] 637 00:25:58,691 --> 00:26:01,293 ALVEZ: IS THAT ANFO, MATT? 638 00:26:01,327 --> 00:26:03,029 YEAH. 639 00:26:16,676 --> 00:26:18,845 FBI! 640 00:26:18,878 --> 00:26:20,813 OH, MY GOD. 641 00:26:29,656 --> 00:26:30,823 [DOOR OPENS] 642 00:26:30,857 --> 00:26:33,292 WHAT'S GOING ON? WHO ARE YOU? 643 00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:36,095 I'M SSA EMILY PRENTISS OF THE BAU. 644 00:26:36,128 --> 00:26:38,631 MELISSA, YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO TAKE A SEAT. 645 00:26:38,665 --> 00:26:40,700 OH, GOD, SOMEONE DIED, DIDN'T THEY? 646 00:26:40,733 --> 00:26:42,401 WHAT MAKES YOU SAY THAT? 647 00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:44,871 YOU GUYS HAVE HAD ME WAITING IN HERE FOR HOURS 648 00:26:44,904 --> 00:26:48,140 WHILE YOUR TEAM TRACKED DOWN BOB ORCI. WHAT HAPPENED? 649 00:26:48,174 --> 00:26:50,710 ARE YOU RECORDING THIS? YOU SHOULD. 650 00:26:50,743 --> 00:26:52,679 [DING] 651 00:26:52,712 --> 00:26:54,914 AGENTS SIMMONS AND ALVEZ 652 00:26:54,947 --> 00:26:57,316 LANDED AT BOB ORCI'S AT 3:37 A.M. 653 00:26:57,349 --> 00:27:00,186 THE WERE VERY SURPRISED BY WHAT THEY FOUND. 654 00:27:00,219 --> 00:27:02,288 FBI! 655 00:27:02,321 --> 00:27:03,289 OH, MY GOD. 656 00:27:03,322 --> 00:27:06,826 HEY, GUYS, MEET BOB ORCI. WEAPONS DOWN, PLEASE. 657 00:27:06,859 --> 00:27:07,960 YOU WERE SAYING... 658 00:27:07,994 --> 00:27:10,096 WAIT. SO YOU GOT THERE BEFORE THEM. 659 00:27:10,129 --> 00:27:11,097 HOW? 660 00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:12,865 BY HELICOPTER. 661 00:27:12,899 --> 00:27:14,233 NOT THE BUREAU'S HELICOPTER. 662 00:27:14,266 --> 00:27:15,935 THIS ONE BELONGS TO THE POLICE FORCE. 663 00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:17,737 WHAT? 664 00:27:17,770 --> 00:27:19,138 THERE'S BEEN A PUSH. 665 00:27:19,171 --> 00:27:20,740 POLICE FORCES ACROSS THE COUNTRY 666 00:27:20,773 --> 00:27:22,909 HAVE BEEN PURCHASING MILITARY-GRADE HARDWARE. 667 00:27:22,942 --> 00:27:25,878 YEAH. LIKE GRENADE LAUNCHERS AND TANKS. 668 00:27:25,912 --> 00:27:27,446 ROSWELL DOESN'T NEED A TANK. 669 00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:29,849 IT NEEDS A HELICOPTER. PEOPLE GET LOST IN THE DESERT. 670 00:27:29,882 --> 00:27:31,784 SOMETIMES AN FBI AGENT LIKE ME 671 00:27:31,818 --> 00:27:33,753 NEEDS TO GET TO A CABIN IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE 672 00:27:33,786 --> 00:27:35,187 AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. 673 00:27:35,221 --> 00:27:37,356 BASED ON YOUR WARNING, THE SHERIFF AND I 674 00:27:37,389 --> 00:27:40,827 LANDED A MILE AWAY AND WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN. 675 00:27:45,431 --> 00:27:48,300 FBI! HANDS UP, NOW! 676 00:27:48,334 --> 00:27:49,969 NOW! 677 00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:51,771 WH-WHAT?! WHAT IS-- 678 00:27:51,804 --> 00:27:53,205 HANDS ON YOUR HEAD. 679 00:27:53,239 --> 00:27:55,041 GET ON YOUR KNEES. 680 00:27:55,074 --> 00:27:57,043 WHERE'S THE FERTILIZER, BOB? 681 00:27:57,076 --> 00:27:59,111 THE FERTILI-- UH, IT'S-- 682 00:27:59,145 --> 00:28:00,747 IT'S UNDER THE TARP OVER THERE. 683 00:28:00,780 --> 00:28:02,782 YES, SIR. CHECK IT OUT. 684 00:28:02,815 --> 00:28:04,283 UH... 685 00:28:04,316 --> 00:28:07,053 NO, THAT'S, UH, MY-- MY ORGANIC TOMATOES 686 00:28:07,086 --> 00:28:09,922 NEED SPECIAL SOIL, AND--AND-- 687 00:28:09,956 --> 00:28:11,423 TH-THAT'S MY VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS 688 00:28:11,457 --> 00:28:14,193 ARE IN THOSE BARRELS. 689 00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:15,194 NO, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. 690 00:28:15,227 --> 00:28:17,196 NO, PLEASE. PLEASE. 691 00:28:17,229 --> 00:28:19,398 I--I SWEAR TO YOU, I WILL SURRENDER EVERYTHING. 692 00:28:19,431 --> 00:28:21,400 JUST PLEASE DON'T KILL ME. 693 00:28:21,433 --> 00:28:23,135 ORGANIC TOMATOES. 694 00:28:23,169 --> 00:28:24,403 YEAH. 695 00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:26,205 ANFO STANDS FOR 696 00:28:26,238 --> 00:28:28,507 AMMONIUM NITRATE FUEL OIL. FUEL OIL. 697 00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:30,242 YOU CAN'T GROW ANYTHING WITH IT. 698 00:28:30,276 --> 00:28:31,477 WE POINTED THAT OUT TO BOB. 699 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:35,281 HE SAID THAT MUST BE WHY HIS TOMATOES KEPT DYING. 700 00:28:35,314 --> 00:28:37,316 WE SEARCHED THE WHOLE COMPOUND ANYWAY. 701 00:28:37,349 --> 00:28:38,450 THERE WAS NO BOMB. 702 00:28:38,484 --> 00:28:40,219 BUT BOB ORCI 703 00:28:40,252 --> 00:28:42,188 HAD QUITE THE STORY TO TELL. 704 00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:44,523 IT'S ALL AN ACT. I'M NO HERMIT. 705 00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:48,227 YEAH, I-- I TELL THESE TRUTHERS 706 00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:50,229 THAT I'M SOME KIND OF HOLY FOOL 707 00:28:50,262 --> 00:28:52,198 AND THEY BUY ALL MY STUFF. 708 00:28:52,231 --> 00:28:54,400 BY "STUFF," YOU MEAN YOUR BOOKS? 709 00:28:54,433 --> 00:28:57,536 NO, THE BOOKS ARE A LOSS-LEADER. 710 00:28:57,569 --> 00:28:59,772 BUT THE VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS, OH, 711 00:28:59,806 --> 00:29:02,441 OH, MY GOD, I'VE MADE SO MUCH MONEY 712 00:29:02,474 --> 00:29:04,143 OFF THE VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS. 713 00:29:04,176 --> 00:29:06,378 SO, "CATCHER IN THE RYE" IS JUST THE LATEST 714 00:29:06,412 --> 00:29:08,848 IN A LONG LINE OF CRAP. 715 00:29:08,881 --> 00:29:10,116 WELL, THE BOOK ITSELF ISN'T. 716 00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:12,084 AND J.D. SALINGER IS A GENIUS. 717 00:29:12,118 --> 00:29:14,053 DIDN'T YOUR READ MY COMMENTARY, 718 00:29:14,086 --> 00:29:16,555 READ MY NOTES, ANNOTATIONS? 719 00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:18,825 I TRIED. YOU LOST ME 720 00:29:18,858 --> 00:29:20,026 WHEN YOU TRIED TO CONNECT 721 00:29:20,059 --> 00:29:22,061 HOLDEN CAULFIELD TO THE BILDERBERG GROUP. 722 00:29:22,094 --> 00:29:23,362 THERE IS NO CONNECTION. 723 00:29:23,395 --> 00:29:26,532 ALL YOU GOTTA DO TO FOOL THESE MORONS 724 00:29:26,565 --> 00:29:28,935 IS TO ASK A QUESTION THAT STARTS WITH, 725 00:29:28,968 --> 00:29:30,369 "ISN'T IT INTERESTING?" 726 00:29:30,402 --> 00:29:33,172 LIKE--LIKE-- LIKE, ISN'T IT INTERESTING 727 00:29:33,205 --> 00:29:36,809 THAT HOLDEN CAULFIELD AND BILDERBERG GROUP 728 00:29:36,843 --> 00:29:39,378 BOTH HAVE 15 LETTERS. 729 00:29:39,411 --> 00:29:41,113 YEAH. AND THEN YOU TAG THAT 730 00:29:41,147 --> 00:29:43,315 WITH "WOW! WAKE UP, SHEEPLE," 731 00:29:43,349 --> 00:29:45,117 YOU JUST SOLD A THOUSAND COPIES. 732 00:29:45,151 --> 00:29:46,853 WE THINK THE KILLER MIGHT HAVE BOUGHT 733 00:29:46,886 --> 00:29:48,587 ONE OF YOUR COMMENTARIES. 734 00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:50,556 WHO'D YOU SELL TO IN ROSWELL? 735 00:29:50,589 --> 00:29:52,424 THE BOOK GROUP IS READING 736 00:29:52,458 --> 00:29:54,126 "CATCHER IN THE RYE" NEXT MONTH, 737 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,196 SO ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO IS CAPITALIZE ON THAT. 738 00:29:57,229 --> 00:29:59,832 AND ONLY ONE GUY SEEMED TO SHOW ANY INTEREST. 739 00:29:59,866 --> 00:30:02,468 [DOOR BANGS OPEN] FBI! 740 00:30:02,501 --> 00:30:03,903 OH, MY GOD. 741 00:30:03,936 --> 00:30:05,604 HEY, GUYS, MEET BOB ORCI. 742 00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:09,075 WEAPONS DOWN, PLEASE. YOU WERE SAYING... 743 00:30:09,108 --> 00:30:10,877 CARL LEE. 744 00:30:10,910 --> 00:30:13,612 THE GUY'S NAME WAS CARL LEE. 745 00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:16,215 SO IT WAS CARL'S COPY. 746 00:30:16,248 --> 00:30:17,917 DOUG DIDN'T BRING IT WITH HIM? 747 00:30:17,950 --> 00:30:20,286 WHY WOULD DOUG PUT PAGE 76 OVER CARL'S THROAT? 748 00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:21,387 HE DIDN'T. 749 00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:24,090 ONLY CARL'S FINGERPRINTS AND DNA 750 00:30:24,123 --> 00:30:27,093 WERE ON THAT PAGE. DOUG NEVER TOUCHED IT. 751 00:30:27,126 --> 00:30:28,895 YOU'VE LOST ME. 752 00:30:28,928 --> 00:30:30,629 EVER BEEN SHOT BEFORE? 753 00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:32,531 PEOPLE DO WEIRD THINGS WHEN THEY'RE SHOT. 754 00:30:32,564 --> 00:30:34,133 [GUNSHOT] 755 00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:35,401 [GROANS] 756 00:30:35,434 --> 00:30:38,470 PRENTISS: CARL WAS SLIPPING INTO SHOCK, 757 00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:41,340 MEANING HE HAD SOME VAGUE AWARENESS THAT HE WAS GONNA DIE 758 00:30:41,373 --> 00:30:43,442 AND HIS BRAIN WAS SHORT-CIRCUITING. 759 00:30:43,475 --> 00:30:45,878 SO THAT CLUE THAT SEEMED SO IMPORTANT 4 HOURS AGO, 760 00:30:45,912 --> 00:30:47,914 IT MEANS NOTHING. 761 00:30:47,947 --> 00:30:50,016 LIFE IS MESSY, RANDOM. 762 00:30:50,049 --> 00:30:51,383 THAT'S WHY I SENT AGENT JAREAU 763 00:30:51,417 --> 00:30:53,019 BACK TO THE FIRST CRIME SCENE. 764 00:30:53,052 --> 00:30:54,586 WE NEEDED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AGAIN 765 00:30:54,620 --> 00:30:56,388 WITHOUT ANY PRECONCEPTIONS. 766 00:30:56,422 --> 00:30:58,524 AND WHEN SHE SAW THE CLEANING SUPPLIES, 767 00:30:58,557 --> 00:31:00,092 SHE HAD AN IDEA. 768 00:31:00,126 --> 00:31:03,362 SPECIFICALLY, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL 769 00:31:03,395 --> 00:31:05,264 HOW YOU CLEAN YOUR AQUARIUM? 770 00:31:05,297 --> 00:31:07,967 SO SHE HAD GARCIA DO SOME RESEARCH. 771 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,468 SO LET'S TALK ABOUT WEIRD SCIENCE. 772 00:31:09,501 --> 00:31:10,436 THERE ARE CERTAIN TYPES OF CORAL 773 00:31:10,469 --> 00:31:13,305 THAT WHEN THEY COME INTO CONTACT WITH BLEACH, 774 00:31:13,339 --> 00:31:15,674 RELEASE SOMETHING CALLED A PALYTOXIN. 775 00:31:15,707 --> 00:31:19,145 SO THE CORAL, IT, LIKE, EMITS THIS AEROSOL 776 00:31:19,178 --> 00:31:20,947 AND THEN THAT AEROSOL CAUSES THE THROAT 777 00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:23,382 AND THE LUNGS TO CLOSE AND THE EYES AND THE SKIN TO BURN. 778 00:31:23,415 --> 00:31:25,351 WELL, THAT'S THE MYSTERY CHEMICAL WEAPON 779 00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:26,652 THE M.E. COULDN'T PLACE. 780 00:31:26,685 --> 00:31:28,988 SO LET'S PLAY THIS OUT. 781 00:31:29,021 --> 00:31:30,222 HE POURS IN THE BLEACH, 782 00:31:30,256 --> 00:31:32,691 CORAL SPITS OUT ITS TOXIN, 783 00:31:32,724 --> 00:31:36,395 AND MOTHER NATURE DOES THE REST. 784 00:31:37,729 --> 00:31:40,599 [GASPING] 785 00:31:43,970 --> 00:31:45,704 IT'S NOT MURDER. 786 00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:48,440 IT'S AN ACCIDENT. 787 00:31:49,541 --> 00:31:51,510 WE'RE VEERING DANGEROUSLY CLOSE 788 00:31:51,543 --> 00:31:52,945 TO BULLCRAP TERRITORY. 789 00:31:52,979 --> 00:31:55,114 WE COULD CALL IT MURDER. 790 00:31:55,147 --> 00:31:57,316 IF THE PROFILE WAS CHARLES DARWIN'S 791 00:31:57,349 --> 00:31:58,985 THEORY OF NATURAL SELECTION, 792 00:31:59,018 --> 00:32:00,652 WE COULD ARREST THE PIECE OF CORAL, I GUESS. 793 00:32:00,686 --> 00:32:03,956 OR, WE COULD JUST ACCEPT THAT LIFE IS-- 794 00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:07,259 MESSY, RANDOM. YEAH. 795 00:32:07,293 --> 00:32:09,161 UNTIL IT'S NOT. 796 00:32:09,195 --> 00:32:10,429 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 797 00:32:10,462 --> 00:32:12,999 WELL, THAT SEEMINGLY UNIMPORTANT BOOK, 798 00:32:13,032 --> 00:32:16,668 THERE WAS ONE ADDITIONAL DETAIL BOB ORCI TOLD US ABOUT 799 00:32:16,702 --> 00:32:18,304 THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION. 800 00:32:18,337 --> 00:32:21,473 NO, I--I DIDN'T FORGET. 801 00:32:21,507 --> 00:32:23,742 I WAS HOLDING BACK FOR DRAMATIC EFFECT. 802 00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:27,379 CARL LEE. HIS NAME WAS CARL LEE. 803 00:32:27,413 --> 00:32:30,016 AND THE REASON THAT STICKS OUT 804 00:32:30,049 --> 00:32:32,551 IS BECAUSE HE ASKED ME TO WRITE A DEDICATION 805 00:32:32,584 --> 00:32:34,086 ON THE INSIDE COVER OF THE BOOK. 806 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,222 IT'S SOMETHING I ADD FOR AN EXTRA 20 BUCKS. 807 00:32:36,255 --> 00:32:39,058 YOU KNOW? AND SOMETIMES I USE THE WILD MAN FONT 808 00:32:39,091 --> 00:32:40,659 AND THE TRUTHERS ALL GO, 809 00:32:40,692 --> 00:32:43,562 "OH, WOW, LOOK, HE ACTUALLY WROTE STUFF IN MY BOOK." 810 00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:45,998 TARA, WE HAVE SOMETHING. 811 00:32:52,104 --> 00:32:53,539 FOUND IT, EMILY. 812 00:32:53,572 --> 00:32:54,706 WHAT DOES IT SAY? 813 00:32:54,740 --> 00:33:00,112 "TO MY DARLING MELISSA, LOVE ALWAYS, CARL." 814 00:33:00,146 --> 00:33:02,114 WE WERE DATING. THAT'S NOT A CRIME. 815 00:33:02,148 --> 00:33:03,349 SO WHY HIDE IT? 816 00:33:03,382 --> 00:33:05,551 THE TRUTHER COMMUNITY IS SMALL, 817 00:33:05,584 --> 00:33:07,053 AND WE'RE GOSSIPY. 818 00:33:07,086 --> 00:33:08,187 ALSO, WE'RE ALREADY CONVINCED 819 00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:09,688 AGENTS LIKE YOU ARE WATCHING US. 820 00:33:09,721 --> 00:33:12,058 SO CARL AND I COVERED OUR TRACKS. 821 00:33:12,091 --> 00:33:13,725 SO WELL, IN FACT, THAT THE GREAT AND POWERFUL GARCIA 822 00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:15,361 IS NOT GOING TO FIND THEM. 823 00:33:15,394 --> 00:33:16,762 I BELIEVE YOU. 824 00:33:16,795 --> 00:33:18,330 WHICH IS WHY WE HAD TO RELY 825 00:33:18,364 --> 00:33:19,798 ON OLD-FASHIONED PROFILING 826 00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:21,633 TO FIGURE OUT THIS NEXT PART. 827 00:33:21,667 --> 00:33:24,736 AND IT STARTED WITH A QUESTION YOU ASKED FIRST. 828 00:33:24,770 --> 00:33:28,207 WHY WOULD DOUG KILL HIMSELF FOR NO REASON? 829 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,112 SO, WE RECONSTRUCTED DOUG'S SUICIDE TO SEE WHAT WE MISSED. 830 00:33:33,145 --> 00:33:34,746 SO YOU WERE THERE AND I WAS HERE. 831 00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:35,747 RIGHT. 832 00:33:35,781 --> 00:33:37,249 AND THEN HE WAS SCREAMING AT YOU, 833 00:33:37,283 --> 00:33:39,551 "I KNOW A FALSE FLAG WHEN I SEE ONE, BITCH." 834 00:33:39,585 --> 00:33:41,120 AND THEN BANG. 835 00:33:41,153 --> 00:33:42,321 NO, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. 836 00:33:42,354 --> 00:33:44,156 HE SAID ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT NOT TO ME. 837 00:33:44,190 --> 00:33:45,624 HE WAS LOOKING AT YOU. 838 00:33:45,657 --> 00:33:48,360 NO, NO. IF SOMEONE MADE EYE CONTACT WITH ME 839 00:33:48,394 --> 00:33:50,262 AND CALLED ME A BITCH, I'D REMEMBER. 840 00:33:50,296 --> 00:33:51,463 MAYBE HE WASN'T LOOKING AT EITHER OF YOU. 841 00:33:51,497 --> 00:33:53,199 HE WAS LOOKING BETWEEN YOU. 842 00:33:53,232 --> 00:33:56,168 UH...JJ, YOU WERE POSTED UP OVER THERE 843 00:33:56,202 --> 00:33:57,836 YEAH. FOR LINE OF SIGHT. 844 00:33:57,869 --> 00:33:59,305 OK, THERE'S ONLY ONE ONE OTHER WOMAN 845 00:33:59,338 --> 00:34:01,773 IN THE ROOM HE WOULD HAVE BEEN TALKING TO. 846 00:34:01,807 --> 00:34:03,742 THE REASON WE ASKED YOU HERE, 847 00:34:03,775 --> 00:34:06,478 THE ONLY REASON, IS TO LISTEN. 848 00:34:06,512 --> 00:34:07,479 THAT'S ALL. 849 00:34:07,513 --> 00:34:09,715 SO JUST LISTEN. 850 00:34:09,748 --> 00:34:12,784 LISTEN. PUT THE GUN DOWN. 851 00:34:12,818 --> 00:34:14,553 I KNOW A FALSE FLAG WHEN I SEE ONE. 852 00:34:14,586 --> 00:34:16,155 YOU BITCH! 853 00:34:16,188 --> 00:34:17,123 [GUNSHOT] 854 00:34:17,156 --> 00:34:18,790 IT ALL STARTED WITH CARL'S TEXT. 855 00:34:18,824 --> 00:34:20,226 "I'M CLOSE TO FINDING OUT WHO IT IS." 856 00:34:20,259 --> 00:34:22,094 HE WAS TALKING ABOUT MELISSA, 857 00:34:22,128 --> 00:34:24,096 AS IN, "I'M CLOSE TO FINDING OUT WHO SHE'S CHEATING WITH." 858 00:34:24,130 --> 00:34:25,797 SHE WAS CHEATING WITH DOUG? 859 00:34:25,831 --> 00:34:27,433 YES. AND WHEN SHE FOUND OUT 860 00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:28,800 CARL WAS ONTO HER, SHE KILLED HIM. 861 00:34:28,834 --> 00:34:30,836 WHOA. SLOW DOWN THERE, PARTNER. 862 00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:32,571 THINK ABOUT IT. IT'S THE OLDEST MOTIVATION IN THE BOOK-- 863 00:34:32,604 --> 00:34:36,175 SEX. MELISSA IS CUNNING AND MANIPULATIVE, 864 00:34:36,208 --> 00:34:38,644 AND SHE IS A PSYCHOPATH, AND A GOOD ONE. 865 00:34:38,677 --> 00:34:41,580 I MEAN, SHE SAT THERE WHILE I LAID OUT THIS ENTIRE CASE, 866 00:34:41,613 --> 00:34:43,249 SHE DID NOT TIP A THING. 867 00:34:43,282 --> 00:34:44,816 NOW, DOUG'S PRINTS WERE ON THE GUN BECAUSE OF THE SUICIDE, 868 00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:48,554 BUT WITH CARL, MELISSA COULD HAVE USED GLOVES, AND... 869 00:34:51,157 --> 00:34:52,558 WHAT? 870 00:34:52,591 --> 00:34:55,161 WHY IS EVERYBODY STARING AT ME? 871 00:34:55,194 --> 00:34:56,895 TARA, I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT. 872 00:34:56,928 --> 00:35:00,866 AN ARREST WOULD RELIEVE A LOT OF TENSION 873 00:35:00,899 --> 00:35:02,901 ON THIS CASE, BUT... 874 00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,102 BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE EVIDENCE, 875 00:35:04,136 --> 00:35:08,140 AND WITHOUT THE EVIDENCE, WE'RE NO BETTER THAN THE TRUTHERS. 876 00:35:08,174 --> 00:35:10,676 NO BETTER THAN THE TRUTHERS. 877 00:35:13,312 --> 00:35:16,482 MELISSA... 878 00:35:16,515 --> 00:35:20,252 THINKS THAT SANDY HOOK WAS STAGED. 879 00:35:22,221 --> 00:35:24,556 I WAS THERE... 880 00:35:24,590 --> 00:35:28,194 THAT DAY, AND I COUNSELED THOSE PARENTS, 881 00:35:28,227 --> 00:35:31,530 AND I SAW... 882 00:35:31,563 --> 00:35:34,166 I SAW THOSE KIDS. 883 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,837 SO THE DAY THAT I LOSE TO SOMEONE LIKE HER... 884 00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:41,673 THAT'S THE DAY THAT I QUIT. 885 00:35:41,707 --> 00:35:44,843 IT'S BIASED THINKING, 886 00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:47,246 AND IF WE ALLOW IT TO COLOR OUR PROFILE 887 00:35:47,279 --> 00:35:50,182 AND THE ARREST FALLS APART, 888 00:35:50,216 --> 00:35:52,551 WE'LL BE A STAIN ON THE BUREAU. 889 00:35:52,584 --> 00:35:57,823 OK, SO WHAT, WE JUST... WE JUST BACK OFF ON MELISSA? 890 00:35:57,856 --> 00:36:00,659 NO. WE BACK UP OUR PROFILE. 891 00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:04,863 YOU HAVE A THEORY, TARA. NOW PROVE YOUR RESULTS. 892 00:36:04,896 --> 00:36:07,833 NOW, ONCE WE'RE INSIDE MELISSA'S HOUSE, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR? 893 00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:10,802 WELL, MAYBE SHE CLEANED UP CARL LEE'S CRIME SCENE. 894 00:36:10,836 --> 00:36:13,505 THE GUN'S ACCOUNTED FOR, BUT THE MISSING BULLET AND CASING AREN'T. 895 00:36:13,539 --> 00:36:16,275 GREAT START. WHAT ELSE? 896 00:36:16,308 --> 00:36:19,878 I ADMIT MY BIAS, OUT LOUD, 897 00:36:19,911 --> 00:36:20,846 BECAUSE I WASN'T ABLE TO SEE 898 00:36:20,879 --> 00:36:23,415 WHAT WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME THE WHOLE TIME. 899 00:36:23,449 --> 00:36:26,818 I THOUGHT ANYONE WHO BELIEVED IN CONSPIRACY THEORIES 900 00:36:26,852 --> 00:36:30,722 HAD TO BE DELUDED. THERE WAS NO WAY THEY COULD OUTSMART ME. 901 00:36:30,756 --> 00:36:35,461 AND I WAS WRONG. THERE IS A CONSPIRACY IN THIS CASE. 902 00:36:35,494 --> 00:36:38,830 AND YOU ARE AT THE CENTER OF IT. 903 00:36:38,864 --> 00:36:44,970 SO, ALLOW ME TO BE CLEAR FROM THIS POINT FORWARD. 904 00:36:45,003 --> 00:36:47,473 I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU ONE CHANCE TO TELL THE TRUTH, 905 00:36:47,506 --> 00:36:51,277 ONE. KEEP IN MIND WE ARE ALREADY SEARCHING YOUR PLACE. 906 00:36:51,310 --> 00:36:55,013 IF YOU LIE, IF YOU HOLD BACK IN ANY WAY, 907 00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:56,248 I WILL KNOW ABOUT IT, 908 00:36:56,282 --> 00:36:59,017 AND I WILL NAIL YOU FOR IT, 909 00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:02,388 ALL THE WAY TO A LIFE SENTENCE. 910 00:37:02,421 --> 00:37:04,222 WOW. 911 00:37:10,629 --> 00:37:13,565 WHAT'S THE POINT OF THIS? 912 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:15,634 I GUESS THERE'S JUST ONE LAST THING TO SAY 913 00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:18,937 BEFORE I INVOKE MY RIGHT TO AN ATTORNEY. 914 00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:24,242 GOOD LUCK. 915 00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:34,720 ROSSI: ANYTHING? 916 00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:36,021 MELISSA'S HOUSE WAS SPOTLESS. 917 00:37:36,054 --> 00:37:37,456 ZERO EVIDENCE OF HER INVOLVEMENT. 918 00:37:37,489 --> 00:37:39,558 HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING? 919 00:37:39,591 --> 00:37:41,026 YIKES. 920 00:37:41,059 --> 00:37:42,394 YEAH, EVERY TIME WE TRY TO REASON IT OUT, 921 00:37:42,428 --> 00:37:44,296 WE KEEP HITTING DIFFERENT WALLS. 922 00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:45,196 WE HAVE TO MAKE AN ARREST 923 00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:47,466 OR RELEASE ALL THE TRUTHERS FROM CUSTODY. 924 00:37:47,499 --> 00:37:49,301 GIVE ME THE VERSION THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. 925 00:37:49,335 --> 00:37:50,936 OK, WELL, DOUG WAS HOLDING THE GUN THAT KILLED CARL, 926 00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:53,004 BUT THERE IS NOTHING BEHAVIORALLY 927 00:37:53,038 --> 00:37:54,473 THAT POINTS TO HIM BEING A KILLER. 928 00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:56,775 AND MELISSA'S THE UNDIAGNOSED PSYCHOPATH, 929 00:37:56,808 --> 00:37:57,976 AND CARL WAS FIGURING OUT THAT SHE WAS CHEATING. 930 00:37:58,009 --> 00:38:01,547 AND AS HIS GIRLFRIEND, SHE WOULD KNOW WHERE HE HID HIS GUNS, 931 00:38:01,580 --> 00:38:04,015 AND SO WE-- WE'RE THINKING THIS. 932 00:38:04,049 --> 00:38:05,951 CARL AND MELISSA WERE FIGHTING. 933 00:38:05,984 --> 00:38:08,454 PSYCHOPATHS AREN'T KNOWN FOR THEIR SMALL EGOS 934 00:38:08,487 --> 00:38:10,556 OR IMPULSE CONTROL, AND SO MELISSA GOT ANGRY 935 00:38:10,589 --> 00:38:12,624 AND SHE WAITS FOR CARL TO TURN HIS BACK, 936 00:38:12,658 --> 00:38:14,493 CARL! AND THEN BANG. 937 00:38:17,429 --> 00:38:19,565 SO SHE CLEANS UP AS BEST AS SHE COULD, 938 00:38:19,598 --> 00:38:22,401 BUT NOW SHE HAS TO HIDE WHAT SHE DID. 939 00:38:29,508 --> 00:38:32,578 SO WE ASKED THE TRUTHERS TO LISTEN TO OUR PROFILE, 940 00:38:32,611 --> 00:38:35,547 AND SHE THOUGHT, "A-HA! I'LL TURN THIS TO MY ADVANTAGE. 941 00:38:35,581 --> 00:38:38,517 "I'LL FRAME MY BOYFRIEND, WHO IS THE MOST LIKELY SUSPECT 942 00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:39,685 IF THEY PUT THIS TOGETHER." 943 00:38:39,718 --> 00:38:41,487 SO SHE SLIPS THE GUN INTO DOUG'S POCKET. 944 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,589 AND DOUG WALKS THROUGH WITHOUT INCIDENT 945 00:38:43,622 --> 00:38:46,024 BECAUSE THE METAL DETECTOR IS BROKEN. 946 00:38:46,057 --> 00:38:47,859 HE DOESN'T NOTICE THE GUN IN HIS POCKET 947 00:38:47,893 --> 00:38:49,795 UNTIL MIDWAY THROUGH OUR PROFILING AND HE PANICS. 948 00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:52,731 WHAT DID YOU PUT IN MY POCKET?! 949 00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:54,533 GUN! DROP IT! 950 00:38:54,566 --> 00:38:56,101 HE ASSUMES, LIKE ALL TRUTHERS, 951 00:38:56,134 --> 00:38:57,636 THAT NO ONE IN THE GOVERNMENT IS GONNA BELIEVE HIM, 952 00:38:57,669 --> 00:38:59,405 SO HIS LAST WORDS AREN'T TO US, 953 00:38:59,438 --> 00:39:00,439 BUT TO MELISSA. 954 00:39:00,472 --> 00:39:03,775 I KNOW A FALSE FLAG WHEN I SEE ONE. 955 00:39:03,809 --> 00:39:05,444 YOU BITCH! 956 00:39:05,477 --> 00:39:06,678 [GUNSHOT] 957 00:39:06,712 --> 00:39:09,815 THAT'S THE VERSION THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. 958 00:39:09,848 --> 00:39:11,717 EVEN IF I BUY IT, A D.A. WON'T. 959 00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:13,552 WE NEED MORE, GUYS. 960 00:39:13,585 --> 00:39:14,553 WELL, THE ONLY THING THAT'S LEFT 961 00:39:14,586 --> 00:39:15,921 IS THE BULLET AND THE CASING. 962 00:39:15,954 --> 00:39:17,589 BUT SHE COULD HAVE DUMPED THAT ANYWHERE. 963 00:39:17,623 --> 00:39:19,491 NO, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY THING. THE PODCAST. 964 00:39:19,525 --> 00:39:20,926 SHE--SHE HAD US RIGHT WHERE SHE WANTED. 965 00:39:20,959 --> 00:39:23,462 SHE COULD HAVE POSTED THE AUDIO OF OUR CONVERSATION 966 00:39:23,495 --> 00:39:25,564 TO PROVE WE WERE TRYING TO COVER THIS UP, 967 00:39:25,597 --> 00:39:27,466 BUT INSTEAD SHE DELETED IT. 968 00:39:27,499 --> 00:39:28,767 WHICH SHE ONLY WOULD HAVE DONE 969 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,436 IF SHE HAD REVEALED HERSELF SOMEHOW. 970 00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:31,770 SHE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING INCRIMINATING 971 00:39:31,803 --> 00:39:33,405 WHEN I TALKED TO HER. 972 00:39:33,439 --> 00:39:34,640 ME NEITHER. 973 00:39:34,673 --> 00:39:36,575 THEN IT WAS ME. SHE LET SOMETHING SLIP, 974 00:39:36,608 --> 00:39:38,510 SOMETHING SHE DOESN'T WANT ME TO REMEMBER. 975 00:39:38,544 --> 00:39:41,447 SO, WHAT? 976 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,116 AURORA, ORLANDO, SANDY HOOK. 977 00:39:45,150 --> 00:39:46,652 THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT 978 00:39:46,685 --> 00:39:48,754 SHOT UP A BUNCH OF EMPTY BUILDINGS 979 00:39:48,787 --> 00:39:50,489 AND THEN GATHERED EVERYTHING UP 980 00:39:50,522 --> 00:39:51,957 AND TRADED IT AMONGST THEMSELVES, 981 00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:55,427 BECAUSE THAT'S HOW PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY WORKS. 982 00:39:55,461 --> 00:39:56,428 [EXHALES] 983 00:39:56,462 --> 00:39:57,496 SHE TRADED IT. 984 00:39:57,529 --> 00:39:58,730 TRADED WHAT? 985 00:39:58,764 --> 00:40:00,532 THE BULLET AND THE SHELL CASING. 986 00:40:00,566 --> 00:40:02,033 SHE TOOK THE EVIDENCE AND SHE GAVE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE. 987 00:40:02,067 --> 00:40:03,635 AND YOU KNOW THIS BECAUSE... 988 00:40:03,669 --> 00:40:05,937 THINK ABOUT A CONSPIRACY THEORY LIKE A PATHOLOGY. 989 00:40:05,971 --> 00:40:08,740 WHAT DISGUSTS HER, WHAT SHE FEARS MOST IN OTHER PEOPLE, 990 00:40:08,774 --> 00:40:09,908 THAT'S THE ACTION SHE'LL COPY 991 00:40:09,941 --> 00:40:11,810 TO JUSTIFY HER OWN BELIEF SYSTEM. 992 00:40:11,843 --> 00:40:13,545 SO WHO HAS THE BULLET? 993 00:40:13,579 --> 00:40:15,914 WHO ELSE? 994 00:40:15,947 --> 00:40:17,449 THE UNSUB WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR 995 00:40:17,483 --> 00:40:18,950 IS MELISSA MILLER, AND WE THINK 996 00:40:18,984 --> 00:40:20,452 SHE'S MADE ONE OF YOU AN ACCOMPLICE 997 00:40:20,486 --> 00:40:22,187 TO HER MURDER OF CARL LEE. 998 00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:24,556 ROSSI: AN UNWITTING ACCOMPLICE. 999 00:40:24,590 --> 00:40:26,625 WE AREN'T KEEPING YOU IN CUSTODY. 1000 00:40:26,658 --> 00:40:28,226 ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LEAVE CAN, 1001 00:40:28,259 --> 00:40:29,961 AND EVERYONE THAT WANTED REPRESENTATION 1002 00:40:29,995 --> 00:40:31,563 HAS A LAWYER PRESENT. 1003 00:40:31,597 --> 00:40:33,865 ALL WE WANT IS FOR YOU TO LISTEN TO OUR THEORY. 1004 00:40:33,899 --> 00:40:36,702 AFTER CARL LEE'S MURDER, MELISSA APPROACHED ONE OF YOU 1005 00:40:36,735 --> 00:40:38,504 AND SHE TOLD YOU THAT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT 1006 00:40:38,537 --> 00:40:40,472 WAS GOING TO FRAME BOTH BRYAN AND CARL'S MURDER 1007 00:40:40,506 --> 00:40:41,507 ON THE TRUTHERS. 1008 00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:43,809 RIGHT ON CUE, WE SHOWED UP. 1009 00:40:43,842 --> 00:40:46,512 SO, SHE GAVE YOU A BOX OR BAG, 1010 00:40:46,545 --> 00:40:47,846 TOLD YOU NOT TO LOOK INSIDE, 1011 00:40:47,879 --> 00:40:49,681 SAID IT WAS ALL PART OF OUR COVER-UP. 1012 00:40:49,715 --> 00:40:52,551 WHAT SHE GAVE YOU WAS MATERIAL EVIDENCE 1013 00:40:52,584 --> 00:40:53,852 OF CARL'S MURDER. 1014 00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:55,754 NOW, YOU CAN THINK WHAT YOU WANT OF US, 1015 00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:57,923 WE ARE NOT HERE TO FRAME ANYONE. 1016 00:40:57,956 --> 00:41:00,859 WE'RE NOT THE MURDERERS. SHE IS. 1017 00:41:00,892 --> 00:41:05,897 DID ANYONE ACCEPT SOMETHING LIKE THIS FROM HER? 1018 00:41:17,609 --> 00:41:19,678 I DID. 1019 00:41:19,711 --> 00:41:22,714 IT'S--IT'S AT MY HOUSE. 1020 00:41:34,693 --> 00:41:37,128 YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS, MELISSA? 1021 00:41:39,898 --> 00:41:43,935 THAT IS A MAGIC BULLET. 1022 00:41:47,606 --> 00:41:49,174 STAND UP. 1023 00:41:50,976 --> 00:41:53,645 MELISSA MILLER, YOU ARE UNDER ARREST 1024 00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:55,547 FOR THE MURDER OF CARL LEE. 1025 00:41:55,581 --> 00:41:57,849 YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. 1026 00:41:57,883 --> 00:42:01,687 YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO AN ATTORNEY. 1027 00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:07,859 * SO WE FAKED OURSELVES ON THE ENDING * 1028 00:42:07,893 --> 00:42:13,565 * AND BREATHE IN THEIR LIES * 1029 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:19,571 * WHILE THE WATER BRINGS NO CLEANSING * 1030 00:42:19,605 --> 00:42:24,743 * JUST REFLECTS STRANGERS' EYES * 1031 00:42:24,776 --> 00:42:27,679 LEWIS: "EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO HIS OWN OPINION, 1032 00:42:27,713 --> 00:42:29,915 BUT NOT TO HIS OWN FACTS." 1033 00:42:29,948 --> 00:42:31,950 DANIEL PATRICK MOYNIHAN. 1034 00:42:31,983 --> 00:42:38,990 * TRUTH WAS TOO HARD TO MENTION * 1035 00:42:47,198 --> 00:42:50,301 CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY ABC STUDIOS, LLC AND CBS, INC. 1036 00:42:50,335 --> 00:42:52,337 CAPTIONED BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE --www.ncicap.org--